The George Strait & Reba McEntire Show; Carrie Underwood Released an Album Today

Brody Vercher | November 3rd, 2009

  1. Rick
    November 3, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Maybe Carrie Underwood doesn’t like the term “pop-country” because she isn’t country. Would she prefer “Contemporary Idol Pop-Diva Crap”. Hmmm….

    So Toby’s fine with uncontrolled illegal immigration across our borders as long as we keep the “terrorists” out! He also thinks Comrade Obama is doing a good job so far and supports the concept of national government sponsored healthcare. Gosh, Toby’s about as politically informed and sophisticated as a sack of Oklahoma steer manure…

    Hey, how about a Dixie Bee-Liners give away contest! Of the new music albums released today that would be my pick over that “pop-country” Carrie what’s her name person.

  2. nm
    November 3, 2009 at 11:49 am

    But, Rick, can you be sure that the Bee-Liners’ politics are pure?

  3. Jon
    November 3, 2009 at 11:52 am

    Remember, he’s asking for a giveaway.

    Me, I’d love to see folks buying Susanville (I could use the money, for one thing), and I don’t care what their politics are.

  4. Lanibug
    November 3, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    The George Jones article seems to be causing controversy all over the place – it is on MSN, Yahoo and CMT and the comments on each are quite interesting….

  5. stormy
    November 3, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Rick: Oabama was a trend 18 months ago–of course Toby Keith is into him now. Be happy for this because next stop for Keith is definately Twilightville.

  6. stormy
    November 3, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    Isn’t it cool how George Jones and Carrie Underwood totally agree not calling her music pop-country…..

  7. Joe M
    November 3, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    It’s true though..country music has changed whether you like it or not..just as it will change again in 10, 20, 30 years etc. I like old country like Alabama, Judds, Conway Twitty, Ronnie Milsap, Reba McEntire’s 80′s and 90′s stuff, but I also like all the new stuff too, especially Carrie! So, I agree Carrie’s style of country music should not be referred to as country-pop but rather just new country! That’s the great thing about country..it has many different sounds, and the songs all have great meanings and messages (for the most part)..

  8. Dan E.
    November 3, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Carrie Underwood’s third album is simply amazing. It’s going to be fun to see her rule the charts again.

    It’s great that country music evolves. Carrie has transitioned well into her new home of contempory country.

  9. Jon
    November 3, 2009 at 1:14 pm

    Great, more terminologydebaters.

  10. nm
    November 3, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    Oh, I’m sure that the Bee-Liners don’t care about Rick’s politics. But he seems to care an extraordinary amount about how artists vote.

  11. Jon
    November 3, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    @nm “But he seems to care an extraordinary amount about how artists vote.”

    Not when he gets their stuff for free.

  12. stormy
    November 3, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Joe: How do the changes wrought in country music affect Carrie’s 80′s pop rock music?

  13. Leeann Ward
    November 3, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Brody,
    Love the title of this… “Carrie Underwood Released an Album Today”:)

  14. Rick
    November 3, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I’ll take free music from any artist regardless of their politics! You see that doesn’t affect its trade in value at The Wherehouse where I can pick out something I would much rather listen to! Although I’d probably hang onto The Dixie Bee-Liners album regardless.

    As for the artist’s politics, I’m just always on the lookout for tidbits I can use as an excuse to bag on that Chicago thug low life in the white house…

  15. Drew
    November 4, 2009 at 2:42 am

    Carrie Underwood is having a rough week in my eyes, and quite a hefty number of other country fans’ I’m sure. I’m pretty close to just saying get outta here to her too… ugh.

  16. Drew
    November 4, 2009 at 2:44 am

    Oh, and I can’t wait to get my hands on the 2nd installment of unreleased Hank recordings, should be awesome.

  17. Thomas
    November 4, 2009 at 6:27 am

    today’s country music and david allan coe seem to share the same trauma of not being called by their proper names. definitely tryin’ times.

  18. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 8:51 am

    Carrie Underwood is having a rough week? What world are you living in? She just released her third album and it’s going to sell like mad, especially this first week. She probably doesn’t spend much time looking at reviews anyway (and not all of them are negative). More than anything she’s feeling excited that some more of her music is being listened to.

    George Jones saying that he’s been robbed of his identity because of new country artists like Carrie and Taylor is laughable, especially when you see a picture of him and see how old he is. He’s like traditional country should be here forever. Hopefully people around him are saying to him, Calm yourself down Grandpa, calm yourself down. It’s time for your nap.

  19. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 9:18 am

    Traditional country *should* be here forever. And dissing George Jones (as opposed to disagreeing with him) is a Bad Thing To Do.

  20. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:25 am

    Dissing Taylor and Carrie was a Bad Thing For Him To Do. At least he knew who they were. When I first read what he said, I was like George Jones who?

  21. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 9:26 am

    George Jones saying that he’s been robbed of his identity because of new country artists like Carrie and Taylor is laughable, especially when you see a picture of him and see how old he is. He’s like traditional country should be here forever. Hopefully people around him are saying to him, Calm yourself down Grandpa, calm yourself down. It’s time for your nap.

    It’s exactly this kind of disrespect that gives Carrie’s fans a bad name. Yes, George Jones may be old, but he is still going strong and plenty of people will still turn out to come to his shows. Let’s see how many people will be coming out to hear Carrie sing “Last Name” and “Before He Cheats” when she is 78 years old.

  22. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 9:28 am

    When I first read what he said, I was like George Jones who?

    Then you need to educate yourself about country music.

  23. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 9:34 am

    “Dissing Taylor and Carrie was a Bad Thing For Him To Do.”

    I don’t see where he dissed them. He said they weren’t doing traditional country music, which – whether you agree that their music should be called something other than country or not (and I don’t) – is neither disrespectful nor inaccurate.

    “At least he knew who they were.”

    I guarantee that they know who he is, too.

    “When I first read what he said, I was like George Jones who?”

    Well, between him and them and you, then, that would make you the most ignorant of the bunch. And you’re not doing yourself any favor by being so.

  24. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Razor X: If he still has plenty of fans at 78, that’s great. So, his identity right now is still in tact. If so, then he was being a little over-dramatic when he made his comments. He, just like many other people, can’t get it through his head that country music must evolve in order to survive. The evolving doesn’t take away from any of country’s past – including this guy.

  25. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Jones didn’t say that his identity had been stolen. He was referring to the hijacking of this entire genre by those who keep churning out 80s pop/rock music and calling it country.

  26. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:38 am

    Jon: Did you even read his article?

  27. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Don’t expect Underwood fans to know who George Jones is. They are far more comfortable listening to Backstreet Boys, Celene Dion and Mariah Carey the country music. Let them enjoy their empty headed pop flavored music. They will soon tire of it and move on to the next “Big” thing.

  28. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:41 am

    Razor X: which is an even bigger “diss” to country music. Since he’s a part of “traditional” county music, there’s no doubt he was including himself in his statements.

  29. Thomas
    November 4, 2009 at 9:42 am

    dan e. …whatever you had in mind with your coming-out regarding george jones, it did not make you sound smart around here. brave? – neither.

  30. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 9:45 am

    Don’t expect Underwood fans to know who George Jones is. They are far more comfortable listening to Backstreet Boys, Celene Dion and Mariah Carey the country music. Let them enjoy their empty headed pop flavored music. They will soon tire of it and move on to the next “Big” thing.

    This whole conversation debunks the myth that artists like Carrie are bringing new fans to country music, and illustrates how she and some otehrs are bringing in fans who are interested in their favorite artist and perhaps one or two others, while holding anyone who was on the scene prior to 2005 in utter contempt.

  31. stormy
    November 4, 2009 at 9:47 am

    Dan e: Just to give you a clue, other bands write song ABOUT George Jones.

  32. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Thomas: So you expect that the babies born today should grow up and fawn over somebody such as George Jones? I can hear it now: “Oh my gosh. Geoge Jones is the best ever. Oh my, where is he? I need his autograph!” I’m glad he’s doing well and still has fans, but how many do you really think he has from this generation?

  33. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 9:51 am

    So you expect that the babies born today should grow up and fawn over somebody such as George Jones?

    No, but anyone who is going to call himself a country music fan should at least know who George Jones is. The fact that you’d never heard of him prior to this article says more about you than it does about Jones.

  34. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:51 am

    The theory that Underwood and Swift bring new fans to country music reminds me of the similar argument for banning marijuana. Weed should be illegal, the theory goes, because its a gateway drug that leads to heroin and crack. But as we all know, what grass really does is lead to the munchies and dropping out of college. All that Underwood and Swift do is lead to country radio to increasingly sound like Top 40 pop of the 1990s. Hell, neither probably know what a steel guitar is.

  35. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 9:52 am

    @Dan E. Yes, I read the article. But I read it objectively; you ought to try doing the same. “Over-dramatic?” I guess, but so what? Pointing that out is one thing; disrespecting one of the greatest singers in American musical history is another.

    @Razor X “This whole conversation debunks the myth that artists like Carrie are bringing new fans to country music…”

    Only if you’re determined to take one fan’s rudeness as representative of millions.

  36. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 9:53 am

    @Steve M. “Hell, neither probably know what a steel guitar is.”

    I’d say you’re wrong about that. In fact, your posts and Dan E.’s are pretty much identical in every important respect.

  37. Tara Seetharam
    November 4, 2009 at 9:54 am

    “This whole conversation debunks the myth that artists like Carrie are bringing new fans to country music”

    Lol yes, because a few internet commenters represent an entire fanbase.

  38. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:57 am

    How? Explain to me how either young woman are actually “country”. Or are able to use the fiddle and steel guitar, the most striking of all country instruments? All their songs sure sound to me more producer driven with extensive production then concerned with actual musical ability.

  39. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:58 am

    Steve M: You seriously had to bring drugs into this conversation?

    Jon: What I did was point out the fact that George Jones disrespected two of the greatest singers in American musical history. If I was disrespectful, it was just a bounce off for what he had to say.

  40. K
    November 4, 2009 at 9:59 am

    “Don’t expect Underwood fans to know who George Jones is”

    What ignorant world do you live in? I’m a huge Underwood fan and I certainly know who George Jones is. I have given his music a chance, but I don’t care for his voice or songs.

    Carrie is a better singer than most of these tarditional artists that speak out against her music.

    I think George’s comments were extremely disrespectful and rude. He said Taylor and Carrie need to find a “new genre?” They certainly aren’t branding themselves tarditional country or anything. Both women have been very vocal about having a more modren pop sound to their country.

    There is still plenty of tarditonal country out there; Jones should listen to them or try to keep his brand of music alive instead of focusing on others he doesn’t think do so.

    What bothers me most about these comments is that he didn’t say anything good about these women, or even that they were talented in the slightest.
    Carrie is one of the best singers of her generation, and Taylor is a fabulous writer.

    Jones comes off as an extremely bitter, sad, and rude old man in this interview, and it does him no favors. He will turn many people, and probably some artists, against him in my opinion.

    I think his comments wouldn’t have caused such conterversy if he’d handled himself with any amount of grace and class. Haggard made recent comments similar to those of Jones, and he didn’t get near the attention.

  41. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 9:59 am

    The drug argument to me is the best parallel to the justification for the industry’s support of Underwood and Swift. Plus, some of the best country music ever has been written under their influence. Go ask Willie Nelson.

  42. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Well put, K.

  43. Leeann Ward
    November 4, 2009 at 10:04 am

    I honestly have to agree with Jon on this conversation on all points. It’s unfair to paint all Carrie Underwood fans with the same broad stroke, but I’m very disheartened by Dan E’s comments regarding George Jones. Jone’s was being opinionated, not out of line…and every country music fan should at least respect him, even if his music isn’t their taste. His opinions come from an honest place that absoulutely makes sense for who he is and the kind of music he represents and to insult him for that only shows a sad level of ignorance that I do not believe all Underwood/Swift fans would do. I have no doubt that Underwood, herself, respects George Jones and likely even likes his music.

  44. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Jones comes off as an extremely bitter, sad, and rude old man in this interview, and it does him no favors. He will turn many people, and probably some artists, against him in my opinion.

    He sounded neither bitter nor rude; he just gave his opinion. And I don’t think he has a thing to worry about with respect to people turning against him.

  45. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:06 am

    Leeann: I’m a contemporary country music fan.

  46. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:12 am

    George Jones: If you can’t respect the new generation of country music, then how do you expect to gain the respect from newer country fans that more than likely have never heard of you?

  47. Leeann Ward
    November 4, 2009 at 10:15 am

    Dan E., I understand that place; I used to only like contemporary country music too. That’s why I have hope for you.:) Even during my only likeing contemporary country music phase, as a teen, I still respected the history of country music though, which led to where I am now. Now, Jones is truly one of my favorite male vocalists, which is something I never would have predicted as a 14-year old kid.

    By the way, I definitely know people who both like Carrie Underwood and George Jones.

  48. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:22 am

    Leeann: Traditional country music and artists such as George Jones certainly had their time in the spotlight, and nothing should take that away from them. The history still gets my respect, even though I don’t listen to it. What I don’t respect is commments such as ones George Jones made. It didn’t leave a good impression – it just made him seem grumpy because the spotlight wasn’t on him anymore.

  49. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:25 am

    Well Dan E., the great thing about living in a Republic is that George Jones has the right to voice his criticism out loud and the ability to make the choice of not becoming a robotic follower of the flavor of the month.

  50. Drew
    November 4, 2009 at 10:31 am

    To not even know who George Jones is before reading that article is very sad. You may be a Carrie fan, a Rascal Flatts fan, a pop-country fan… but to not even know who arguably the greatest country singer of all-time is, my God, a true country music fan you certainly are not.

  51. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Steve M: You do realize that you are a robotic follower to Carrie Underwood (flavor of many months to come) because you repeatedly write negative comments about her. You follow her through her career to bash her afterwards. That’s definitely your right, but at least you’re a devoted follower of Carrie Underwood (and Taylor Swift.)

  52. Dan Milliken
    November 4, 2009 at 10:35 am

    I don’t know why every time an older artist speaks out against the lack of traditional country music on the radio, he or she is accused of being bitter about not being in the spotlight. It happened with Mark Chesnutt; now it’s happening with George Jones. Look, I know it’s easy for a fan to take criticisms of his or her artist hard, but these people are not insulting Carrie/Taylor/etc. as people, and they’re not even saying they’re not talented. They’re just saying that they don’t consider their music very “country”, which to me is just straight-up musical analysis, even if some of their perspective may be fueled by a preference for the sounds of their respective hey-days. You’re allowed to disagree with their assessments, but it doesn’t make them bitter old geezers.

  53. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Drew: Like I’ve stated earlier, I’m not a true country music fan. I’m a true contemporary country music fan!

  54. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:37 am

    Dan E.: I just call them like I see them. You will find a Chris Knight cd, Robert Earl Keen or a Dale Watson playing on my ipod. But never, ever, pop country.

  55. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Steve M: I’m sure you don’t have Carrie on your i-pod. I just find it awesome you are supporting the career of Carrie by continually posting nonstop on Carrie articles. Thanks, man.

  56. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Dan E., you seem, much like Lane Kiffin, to be under the delusion that any publicity is good publicity.

  57. SO WHAT!
    November 4, 2009 at 10:42 am

    I don’t understand the fuss about these two young artists.. I would rather have my young nieces listening to them then some of those horribly written songs on the R&B and hip/hop charts.. Music influences.. and I think these two young women are positive role models.. What about all the other country acts out there that aren’t quite traditional country? I don’t see any mud slinging about them, noone hardly says a word.. it’s all centered around Taylor and Carrie… two women that yes, dominate the charts, but are certainly outnumbered by the solo male, and groups. It seems nashville is a bit gender biased if you ask me…????

  58. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:46 am

    Steve M: If the publicity remains, “She’s not a country singer, so get out.” then yes, it does work for her benefit. People are always out there to defend her, and it builds her up to the crowd that doesn’t care if she’s considered country or not.

  59. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:51 am

    Much like Lane Kiffin, Underwood too will wear out her welcome far more quickly then you realize. Within ten years she will be pitching reality shows to VH1 to revive her career.

  60. Tara Seetharam
    November 4, 2009 at 10:53 am

    “Dan E.: I just call them like I see them. You will find a Chris Knight cd, Robert Earl Keen or a Dale Watson playing on my ipod. But never, ever, pop country.”

    Good for you. Personally, I listen to what moves me, regardless of genre, because the very best thing about music is that it makes you feel. Music isn’t about definitions, but about value. It’s your prerogative to steer clear of pop country, but please realize that you’re going to miss some fantastic, powerful music along the way.

  61. Brody Vercher
    November 4, 2009 at 10:54 am

  62. Steve M.
    November 4, 2009 at 10:57 am

    If it means never having to listen to a top 40 station and missing the latest pulp from a Rascal Flatts, I am ok with missing pop country. Yes, there can be good songs, but they are drowned in a sea of mediocrity. Satellite radio freed me from the tyranny of ClearChannel and others (though they do program the top 40 station on XM).

  63. SO WHAT!
    November 4, 2009 at 10:59 am

    NOW THAT’S FUNNY! I don’t think Jones is bitter he is a traditionalist.. and we can all agree that a lot of what’s on the charts is NOT traditional but contemporary country.. I don’t think traditional will ever become extinct as long as there are fans and artists to keep it alive. I like both, but also as stated Johnny Cash certainly wasn’t traditional but a sun rocker… and widely accepted by country music fans.. even Jones.. I’m still giggling about that poster… LOL!

  64. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 11:01 am

    @Dan Milliken: “They’re just saying that they don’t consider their music very “country”, which to me is just straight-up musical analysis, even if some of their perspective may be fueled by a preference for the sounds of their respective hey-days. You’re allowed to disagree with their assessments, but it doesn’t make them bitter old geezers.”

    I’m not sure if that’s straight-up musical analysis – or at least, if it’s sound, historically-informed musical analysis – but you’re absolutely right on the larger point. You have to read the AP piece pretty tendentiously to get from Jones the same degree of disrespect to Underwood, Swift, et.al. that equates to folks like Dan E. calling Jones “Grandpa,” etc.

    Beyond that, this entire discussion is awash in ironies.

  65. stormy
    November 4, 2009 at 11:02 am

    Dan: My neice LOVES George Jones and she is 7. Remember, old style country is the new punk.

  66. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 11:04 am

    Jon: He is 78. So, more likely than not, he is a grandpa.

  67. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 11:07 am

    @Dan E. You’ve already admitted to being deliberately disrespectful, so don’t get disingenuous on us now.

  68. SO WHAT!
    November 4, 2009 at 11:10 am

    @stormy, let us know let us know what she’s up to say 6 years from now.. you’ll be blessed if she’s listening to an artist like Taylor instead of music with lyrics ingrained with sexual innuendo… You’ll be wishing Taylor was around…

  69. Leeann Ward
    November 4, 2009 at 11:11 am

    “@Dan E. You’ve already admitted to being deliberately disrespectful, so don’t get disingenuous on us now.”

    Agreed. That’s not what you meant by “Grandpa” and we all know it, even the people who might agree with your points.

  70. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 11:12 am

    Jon: With knowing such big words as “disingenuous”, you think a person would know how to read. I never once admitted to being deliberately disrespectful.

  71. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 11:16 am

    @Dan E. Honestly, you’re just digging yourself in deeper.

  72. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Jon: I’m so sorry.

    Jon: “I unapologize. I meant every word… You heard me right… I unapologize.”

  73. Leeann Ward
    November 4, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Dan E.,
    You’re honestly not doing Carrie Underwood or her other fans a positive service. I know there are mature Underwood fans out there ( a couple of my Country Universe colleagues included) and it would be nice if you didn’t represent them so haphazardly.

  74. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    Leeann: I’m sorry if you can’t stand for the sarcastic little lines I write, but you should reread all the nasty commments left by people on the Carrie and Taylor blogs that far outnumber and outweigh any comments I’ve made. Calling someone old and grandpa (which are both true)is nothing compared to other people’s thoughts about Carrie and Taylor. George Jones shared his opinion, I voiced mine and a lot more posts came because of it. So, like I said before, “I unapologize.” (especially since over 70% of posters on this site don’t like Carrie or Taylor.)

  75. Leeann Ward
    November 4, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    I’m not excusing how the over-the-top Underwood detracters comport themselves; I don’t like that either. They are not representing their supposed “favorite” artist though. I’m saying that your comments are not helping to establish good will toward Carrie, which is what I would think was your initial purpose for commenting. Either way, it’s fine, but I’m thinking (though I don’t claim to know) that it’s not the kind of defense Carrie Underwood would like to have. You would know better than I though.

  76. Dan E.
    November 4, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Leeann: Besides old, grandpa, and grumpy (which are representing George, who’s not my “favorite” artist) what is it on this particular blog that has really put me over the top, huh? By the way, I don’t even believe the words above would even consider me in this classification? I’m just curious, Leeann.

  77. Dan Milliken
    November 4, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    It boggles my mind that no one besides So What has even mentioned Brody’s poster. That is just awesome.

  78. sam (sam)
    November 4, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    I think the comments about rap, coupled with the “Oh I am open minded I like 2 black artists” and the rap isn’t music nonsense are borderline racist.

  79. stormy
    November 4, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    so what!: If she listens to George Jones then she already listens to music with sexual inuendo, doesn’t she? My family cares more about listening to quality music than keeping children sealed in a hermetic chamber of inoffensive bubble gum. My favorite song at her age was Blood Red and Going Down.

  80. Razor X
    November 4, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    I think the comments about rap, coupled with the “Oh I am open minded I like 2 black artists” and the rap isn’t music nonsense are borderline racist.

    I think it’s borderline racist to even pick on that. Jones didn’t name Brook Benton or Ray Charles because of their race, but because they aren’t country artists (though Ray Charles did have a few country hits). The rap comments were made because a reporter asked him about it. It’s no surprise that someone from Jones’ generation wouldn’t care for rap; perhaps the reporter was race-baiting by asking the question in the first place??

  81. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    Mmm, there are lots of Black folks who think that rap isn’t music on the same grounds that Jones offers: it’s “talking stuff.” I’d be inclined to chalk it up more to generational attitude than race.

  82. Chris N.
    November 4, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    It’s a shame George doesn’t comment here. He’d fit right in with the endless obsession over which categories various artists do or do not fall into.

  83. TexasVet
    November 4, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    This is what greatness is all about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz2aNifcy20

  84. Jon
    November 4, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    I think Merle Haggard put it best years ago when he told me he was about to turn down a request to sing some kind of complaint-about-the-state-of-country-music song with Jones: “I don’t think George needs to be bitching with a great voice like that.”

  85. Dan Milliken
    November 5, 2009 at 12:24 am

    Love Haggard and all, but he’s hardly one to decry the practice of bitching about today’s country music.

    From an article on his website: “We don’t have the enthusiasm in music right now,” he says. “We don’t even have songs you could date a time period by. You’ve got girls singing about beating up their boyfriends. ‘Independence Day.’ I hate that f- song.”

    http://merlehaggard.com/2009/03/country-star-merle-haggard-stands-tall/

  86. Jon
    November 5, 2009 at 7:01 am

    That strikes me as a rather different observation than Jones’. For one thing, he doesn’t say “country music”; for another, it’s not about terminology and categorizing.

  87. Karlie Justus
    November 5, 2009 at 7:41 am

    Brody, did you make that? That just made my day.

  88. Brody Vercher
    November 5, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    Yeah, there was one particular comment that sparked the inspiration, but I can’t seem to find it now.

  89. Karlie Justus
    November 5, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Brody – Brilliant.

    Jon: Traditional country *should* be here forever. And dissing George Jones (as opposed to disagreeing with him) is a Bad Thing To Do.

    Dissing The Possum is definitely bad karma.

  90. karen
    May 15, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    Phil – just my opinion (said directly, i.e. NOT behind your back), but isn’t it bullheaded to state you like (by which i’m guessing you mean, you ‘respond’) to the artist as ‘only’ an artist,as tho the person ‘behind the artist’ didn’t really matter – even exist?! I don’t think that’s possible w/out MAJOR manipulation of image, which you are so dead set against. How many artists would be as popular if their IMAGE (= as a person) hadn’t been positioned by their managers, etc, to come across as being a certain way? How can u claim an artist really IS an artist if who they are as a person doesn’t matter?!? Let me cite a few obvious examples of this: Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin…heck, some of those raw American Idol contestants are interesting to those of us easily-manipulated soccer moms BECAUSE we get a chance to see them on TV BEFORE the managers & labels, etc, have gotten their hands on them & made sure that who they are as a person matches up 2 who they are in the public eye haha!! Surely u are being disingenious to say you are not attracted to Kristy as a person, only as an artist, when she was one of those ‘in the raw’ AI contestants who we got to see pre-major label manipulation?’

  91. Diana
    June 7, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    Guys, Carrie Underwood and Reba McEntire rock! And you guys, saying that Carrie and Reba are pop, listen to “Cowboy Casanova.” If you think that song’s pop, you are retards. That is so freakin’ stupid of you to say that Carrie and Reba are pop. Get a life, retards.

  92. Samantha
    June 7, 2010 at 2:11 pm

    Hey if u think Carrie and Reba are pop u are RETARDS GET A MIND THEIR COUNTRY RETARDS

    AND TRUE

  93. merlefan49
    June 7, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Diana/Samantha

    Can’t you make your point with out name calling. It’s not a good argument.

  94. Stormy
    June 7, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Diana: Cowboy Cassanova sounds like an Immani Coppula retred.

    Samantha: Carrie may not be the brightest bulb in the box, but its cruel to call her a retard.

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