Sugarland Founders to Reunite In Court; Buck Owens Revealed; Taylor Swift Single Released Early

Brody Vercher | August 5th, 2010

  • Come this fall, the original Sugarland trio will have a reunion of sorts, only it’ll be in the courtroom. Jennifer Nettles and Kristian Bush will square off against Kristen Hall in a lawsuit that the latter filed claiming that she is owed more than $1.5 million. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Bill Rankin has more details, including a timeline of the band’s formation to its dissolution.

    When asked during a pre-trial deposition to describe Hall’s positive contributions to Sugarland, Nettles called her “a decent songwriter.” When asked if there was anything else she could say about Hall, Nettles replied, “She had the wherewithal and smarts to call me.”

    (via Country Music Tattle Tale)

  • Miranda Lambert, songwriters Tom Douglas and Allen Shamblin, and a bunch of other people celebrated the success of “The House That Built Me” at the song’s No. 1 party on Tuesday. To GAC’s Tom Roland, and many others in the music community, it seems inevitable that the song will take Song of the Year at the CMA awards.
  • Big Machine Records rushed Taylor Swift‘s single “Mine” to radio and iTunes yesterday after a low-quality version leaked on the internet. “Mine” is the the first single from Swift’s upcoming album, Speak Now. (iTunes)
  • The Austin Chronicle‘s Jim Caligiuri on the new Colin Gilmore album Goodnight Lane, his first long-player in six years:

    Previously, Gilmore attempted to distance himself from his famous father, Jimmie Dale, but this set moves closer to Texas-bred country, thus embracing his heritage and producer Lloyd Maines’ influence. It’s just the sound he’s been looking for.

    It’s not scheduled for release until Aug. 17, but can already be had on DigStation.

  • On Sept. 16, ABC will air footage filmed at this year’s CMA Music Festival in a Tim McGraw-hosted special titled CMA Music Festival: Country’s Night to Rock.
  • In an article for Chapter 16, Paul McCoy interviewed Eileen Sisk, the author of the recently-released book Buck Owens: The Biography, which provides a revealing look, good and bad, at Owens’ life.

    Finally, he looked at me and said, “How would you approach the book if you were to write it?” I told him I would approach it as any journalist would, that is, I would talk to people who knew him, worked with him, were married to him, and that I would explore the circumstances of Don Rich’s death.

    That is when I felt his energy shift. There was a long silence. Then he couldn’t look me in the eye anymore and began shifting his gaze, all the while wearing tinted shades a la Elvis and Ringo. He hemmed and hawed and then said, “Well, Eileen, it’s like this. You’re real pretty and you’re real smart, but I just don’t trust publishers.”

  • Word has it the bluegrass label Pincastle Records, which shuttered its doors in February, has been sold.
  • Trace AdkinsGIG-VID TV provides a behind-the-scenes look into his life and personality.
  • Had Vern Gosdin not passed away last year, today would have been his 76th birthday. To mark the occasion, LimeWire Music Blog’s Chuck Dauphin briefly profiled his life and career.
  • Jason Aldean shipped “My Kind of Party,” the first single from his upcoming album, to radio this week. Listen to the song on his website.
  • Farce the Music provided snap judgments on a bunch of recent singles.
  • The recently-formed bluegrass group The Boxcars signed a deal with Crossroads/Mountain Home yesterday and will release its self-titled debut on Oct. 19 . The band consists of Adam Steffey, Ron Stewart, John Bowman, Keith Garrett and Harold Nixon.
  • The new Joey+Rory album, Album Number Two, is scheduled for a Sept. 14 release. Listen to the title track.
  • The Boot’s Pat Gallagher played 20 questions with Toby Keith and Trace Adkins.

    Who’s the most underrated singer in country music?

    Trace: Other than me? [laughs] Everybody’s starting to catch on now, but I think Randy Houser is one of the best singers I’ve heard in a long time.

    Toby: I always thought Mickey Gilley was underrated. You hear him sing those ballads. They look at Mickey as just a honky-tonk, bar-owning, piano player and singer. He can really croon. There’s another guy that I don’t think got his props … Mel Tillis. Mel Tillis is Bing Crosby smooth, you know?

  • For today’s song of the day, Texas Music Matters excavated a 1991 Alison Krauss performance of the Beatles song “I Will” from the Cactus Cafe archives.

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  1. Jon
    August 5, 2010 at 11:46 am

    Good calls from Toby Keith

  2. Stormy
    August 5, 2010 at 11:56 am

    Toby Keith and John Rich move over, there’s a new ego in town.

  3. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Jon,

    No disagreement there. Especially Tillis. He was much more than Coca-Cola Cowboy and a good writer as well.

    Stormy,

    I’m assuming you are referring to Trace?

  4. Stormy
    August 5, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    I’m referring to Jennifer Nettles.

    When asked if there was anything else she could say about Hall, Nettles replied, “She had the wherewithal and smarts to call me.”

  5. Jon
    August 5, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Is it egotistical if it’s true?

    Waiting on your resume – or at least your name – Waynoe…

  6. Charles Murphy
    August 5, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Jennifer Nettles is such a self important biotch!!! I saw them when it was a trio and Nettles never ONCE refered to Sugarland as WE….The whole show, she was I, I, I, I.

    Didn’t Kristen Hall co-write or write most of the hits on the first album?? Hope she gets hers and more in the future.

    Waiting to see when Nettles is gonna dump the baked bean idiot and try out on her own. It’s coming….People on the row and in their organization have hinted at it since day one.

  7. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    Stormy,

    I’m in your camp on this one. Both Nettles and Bush have ego problems and have been quoted several times in statements condescending to other artists though I cannot provide links to such statements so the Sugar lovers can avoid asking.

    I simply cannot stand this duo of Nettles and Bush. A joke of a duo with one faking her voice and the other stump looking up at her strumming a guitar and Nettles always having to convince others why he is so important.

  8. Dan
    August 5, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    People spend time calling her a B*%CH but that’s kinda what it takes. I’ve seen more bands break down due to one person taking the lime light but that’s how shit rolls.. and if you’re not on top of the hill then shit rolls down hill at those at the bottom.

  9. Lewis
    August 5, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    I always liked Buck Owens and his music but that biography really paints Buck as someone who had an ego problem and treated people bitterly. And why would the author think that Don Rich’s death wasn’t more than a motorcycle accident and that foul play was involved? Is the author a familiar source to Buck Owens or is she after something more to tear down what Buck did in his career with this book? Did she even have a chance to interview Bonnie Owens, Buck’s first wife, before she died? And how about Jana Jae, Buck’s third wife, and who was married to Buck for a few days, and did she interview her?

  10. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    The Swift single is undeniably pop, not even pop country, but there’s some good writing in there.

  11. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    Charles,

    The “baked bean idiot” was just too funny (and true). Also you stated that “People on the row and in their organization have hinted at it since day one.”

    Whenever one posts something on here about what the industry or music row states they seem to be highly questioned. Get ready to be have a snide comment thrown to you such as, “I guess ole Charles has insight that we don’t.”

  12. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    Jon,

    When and where? On this blog? Is it me first and then you? What verification will you provide? How will you substantiate your claims? Also if you are as you state, are you not prohibited from making certain statements or references?

  13. Jon
    August 5, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Dude, it’s really pretty simple. If you click on my name at the top of this post, you go to my MySpace page, where my real name is prominently displayed (and where you can listen to tracks from my album). It’s all Google from there; the only thing to watch out for is that there’s a dude who played bass with a punk band called From First To Last whose name seems to be Jon Weisberg, and sometimes his name is given as mine. And if you go to allmusic.com and plug my name in as an artist, you’ll get a reasonably accurate list of liner notes I’ve written along with recording and songwriting credits.

    Now, how about you?

  14. Lee S.
    August 5, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    Can’t bring myself to listen to the Taylor single, so no comment on that.

    I really wanted to dislike Aldean’s new single (more partying, dude?), but I admit I enjoyed it more than Crazy Town or She’s Country. Huh.

    Interesting comment for Jennifer. This could get ugly.

  15. Stormy
    August 5, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Jon: It is true if Jennifer is basically interchangable with 37 other cute little blonde singers?

  16. Michael A.
    August 5, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    Haha. The Nettles comment is definitely arrogant and bitchy, but probably true and it totally gave me a good laugh.

  17. Jim Malec
    August 5, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    It wouldn’t be unreasonable to presume that any statement made by Jennifer Nettles while in court was done so under the advice of her legal council.

  18. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 3:17 pm

    Jon,

    Sorry for the list but I have no website.

    Multiple instrumentalist. Guitar, Base, Steel Guitar (my favorite but my time has passed on it) and basic percussion.

    Song-writer and teacher. A few songs were recorded by independents.

    Worked in live bands – regional only. Arranged music for recordings.

    Mainly more country-gospel in style.

    Arranged bands & choirs for special concerts and played at regional gatherings of audiences of between 400 – 1,500 often.

    College adjunct professor.

    Played with Alan Manship in the past (way back). Steve Wariner and others have purchased his guitars. Most professional guitar players know of him.

    In my current line of work, for compliance sake since it is financial-related, any blogs or other social media is compliance-driven therefore I am not public as you are. Obviously WAYNOE is an alias.

    By the way, nice myspace site you have.

    Hoping to be at the next Bluegrass convention in Nashville as that is more my taste now. Maybe you will be there?

  19. Michael A.
    August 5, 2010 at 3:32 pm

    So now that you guys have whipped ‘em out and measured, should we take a vote on the winner?

  20. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    My vote is for Jon. His can be more verified. Mine just has to be believed – but it is the truth.

    Jon,
    Did you have examples on your myspace of your music? Are you on the Cordle youtube video?

  21. xritaballoux
    August 5, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    How do Jory+Rory have a second album? Really?

  22. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    That’s pretty good, Wayno.

  23. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    As far as the Nettles quote, incredibly catty. If that was advised by a lawyer, I’m thinking that either she needs a new one or she didn’t quite say it how the lawyer meant her to say it.

  24. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    Leeann,

    Thanks.

    XRIT,

    Can you explain your question?

  25. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    I’ve read in various places, including Merle Haggard’s autobiography, that Buck Owens’ was not exactly always a fair business associate. Maybe he mellowed by the time Dwight Yoakam came around.

  26. Thomas
    August 5, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    …guys, judging from the egos you display around here, i was expecting a little more on the credentials side.

  27. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Thomas,

    No ego on my end (nor Jon’s best I can tell). By the way, who are you?

  28. Jim Malec
    August 5, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    “As far as the Nettles quote, incredibly catty. If that was advised by a lawyer, I’m thinking that either she needs a new one or she didn’t quite say it how the lawyer meant her to say it.”

    Catty, but it paints Hall as a hapless sidekick.

  29. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Leeann,

    Not an expert on Buck, but man could he and Don Rich harmonize! They were more of a duo than the “1+0″ duets of B&D and Sugarland.

  30. Viv
    August 5, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    My guess Jennifer just said it out frustration. She should not have said what she did but we all say things we shouldnt when we are angry. They were left high and dry by her when the were taking off because “she wanted to go home and write songs” (basically she was just tired of the road). After she left you it was not a sure thing that they could pull through.
    When in concerts before she left she never even tried to look like she liked it, you could tell she just wanted to leave (didn’t sign or take pictures with fans like Kristian and Jennifer) . And now she comes back asking for money from them? It’s quitters remorse, she just upset she left before they made bank.

  31. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Wayno,
    I agree about Owens and Rich. Maybe Owens should have had them be a duo.

  32. idlewildsouth
    August 5, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    If they were left so high and dry, then the comments Jennifer Nettles makes are unwarranted. So, is it the money from the trademark that’s owed? Or does she feel like, because of the work she did early, that she’s due a portion of their profits since she left the band? I’m no lawyer(obviously) but it seems to me that she’s due what she’s due on the trademark, but if you walk away from a band, you cant expect part of the profit afterward without a contract saying as much.

  33. Troy
    August 5, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    I go mainly on two blogs 9513 and pop justice and about the new Taylor Swift single. On pop justice ,which specializes in pop music, they are saying that the song isn’t pop enough and over here people are saying its too pop.

  34. Thomas
    August 5, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    @ waynoe

    …i’m thomas, the guy who believes that any two people, who perform something together are a “duo” by definition. b&d would still be a duo if kix brooks only held a flowerpot with a sunflower in his hands, when they hit the stage (same would apply for sugarland).

    for a financial specialist you have an interesting approach to math: 1 + 0 = 1 – that’s not 2, which is the basic requirement for a duo as well as a duet. since i see two people, when i look at b&d and sugarland, your “1+0″ view could point to an eyesight-problem.

  35. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Stormy,
    Nettles may be a lot of things, but “interchangeable” is not one of them. Like her or not, she has a very unique voice. I couldn’t even compare her to another female singer off the top of my head.

  36. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    Thomas,

    I was being sarcastic with my math. You really should have picked up on at least that.

    Your definition of a duo is interesting. So someone can simply label themselves and that is it? By the way, Brooks and Bush do little more than stand there and hold a flower pot, especially Bush.

  37. Viv
    August 5, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    IDLEWILDSOUTH
    from what i’ve read she’s expecting money for helping start the band and other things. In one article it talks about how when she left they were in debt “had assets of $15,344 and liabilities totaling $99,042″(which Nettles and Bush paid for without her help). So from what Im getting from these articles is not that she didnt get her money from songwriting (which if it was she should get it). They are suing because Kristen Hall doesnt think she was fully compensated for the work she did to get sugarland of the ground.

  38. Kyle
    August 5, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    I just wish Nettles wouldn’t embellish such an extreme twang. It sounds really unnatural to me.

  39. Thomas
    August 5, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    @ waynoe

    …i realised that you were being sarcastic, but still – “duo” is only defined by quantity. quality aspects do not apply, when defining a “duo”. it’s like two people with a child – they are defined as parents. good or bad, equally involved or not in the up-bringing does not change the basic definition in the slightest.

    i hope that puts an end to the rather fruitless discussion of late, whether b&d or sugarland are “duos” – they are.

  40. Rick
    August 5, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Joey and Rory played some of the songs off their new album on Tuesday Night’s Opry and they were very good indeed. They even had vocalist Bradley Walker sing lead on one of their new songs. Good stuff.

    Last night was an especially good “Music City Roots” show on WSM featuring Tim O’Brien, Bobby Bare Jr., and the semi-bluegrassy duo Jeff and Vida. Tim performed many of the songs off his brand new album with the same musicians he recorded it with, and Bobby Bare Jr. told stories about Shel Silverstein. Being a WSM feature show it will be archived on WSM’s website and is well worth a listen all the way through! (Which is quite rare for Music City Roots where “unusual” Americana artists are the norm.)

    Diggin on Trailer’s capsule song reviews. Short, succinct, and spot on the money.

    So Billy Bob Thorton has his band The Boxmasters, and now we have a new bluegrass outfit named The Boxcars! Where do Boxcar Willie and the 60’s rock group The Boxtops fit in? I’m so confused…

    Buck Owens was never known as one of the good old boys of country music. At least he didn’t try to be what he wasn’t. Better to be an authentic jerk than a phony nice guy.

    Hey Rita, its nice to see you drop in at The 9513. Hope you’re enjoying the new Sunny Sweeney tunes!

  41. Stormy
    August 5, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Jim Malec
    August 5, 2010 at 3:15 pm Permalink It wouldn’t be unreasonable to presume that any statement made by Jennifer Nettles while in court was done so under the advice of her legal council.

    Then her lawyer is an idiot because that quote gives Kristin Hall sole credit for forming the band.

  42. Stormy
    August 5, 2010 at 8:01 pm

    Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm Permalink Stormy,
    Nettles may be a lot of things, but “interchangeable” is not one of them. Like her or not, she has a very unique voice. I couldn’t even compare her to another female singer off the top of my head.

    Without even looking three feet to the left you have Kellie Pickler. It wouldn’t be that hard to teach Julianne Hough to sing through her nose.

  43. Blake
    August 5, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Ms. Swift’s new single is indeed Pop, not country. However, there is some excellent writing within the song, enough for me to purchase it this evening. Good music is good music as they say. Ms. Nettle’s Quote was of very poor judgement, especially in a court-room, but we all make poor judgement’s from time to time. Another album from Joey + Rorey should be quite interesting to hear. Good answer from Toby, Mr. Tillis and Mr. Gilley are definately under-rated in the country music landscape, and are fantastic singers! Yes, in music there are a lot of blonde’s, however, they each bring something different to the table, and are all talented in their own way.

  44. FKTL
    August 5, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Ms. Swift’s new single is indeed country.

  45. Leeann
    August 5, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    Without even looking three feet to the left you @Stormy: have Kellie Pickler. It wouldn’t be that hard to teach Julianne Hough to sing through her nose.

    Hmmm…Kellie doesn’t sound anything like Jenifer Nettles, whether she’s to the left or right of her. Nor does Hough, even if she sang through her nose more. Nettles’ voice does not always work for me, but it’s definitely unique and nasal isn’t all of what makes it unique. I understand how people can differ on who sounds similar, but I just can’t wrap my head around yours this time. I don’t hear it at all.

  46. Blake
    August 5, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    @FKTL

    Sure, the storyline and lyrics are definitely country, but the music surrounding the lyrics resembles a more pop sound than a country sound. I clearly hear country elements within the music and layering, so it’s Country-Pop on a tight-rope. If you listen closely, you clearly head country chords.

  47. Drew
    August 5, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    New Jason Aldean single is crap. I expected as much after hearing all his comments about how he’s country with an edge, or whatever he calls it.

  48. WAYNOE
    August 5, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    On a totally unrelated point, what in the heck happened to Jamey Johnson’s single “Macon”? Did it chart or is it already biting the dust?

    Also I believe that “My Way To You” was the first single and it didn’t make it to the top 40.

    Good ole MTV-dominated country radio set lists again crowding out the good stuff.

  49. Lewis
    August 5, 2010 at 11:15 pm

    Now that I read the Buck Owens article more closely, it seems that Eileen Sisk sounds like that she was one of Buck Owens’ many lovers and got jilted when Buck didn’t want whatever she wanted so she decided to make sure that she did everything she could to trash down Buck’s legacy after his death and release her own book and version of Buck’s life to make it look like that Buck had an ego problem and make accusations that there was more involved in Don Rich’s death than the motorcycle accident. If Buck was alive and well, I think that he would have told Ms. Sisk where to take her book.

  50. Matt Bjorke
    August 6, 2010 at 12:41 am

    Waynoe,

    “Macon” was never officially released to radio, only iTunes.

  51. J.R. Journey
    August 6, 2010 at 1:24 am

    I may be biased in this, but I have lost a lost a lot of my respect for Stormy’s brand of sarcasm when she directs it at a talent like Jennifer Nettles.

    “Haha. The Nettles comment is definitely arrogant and bitchy, but probably true and it totally gave me a good laugh.

    That sums up my feelings toward Nettles’ comment pretty well. Seriously, would we even know the name Sugarland today had it not been for Jennifer’s voice? I know I wouldn’t have given them a second listen, given some of their first singles, had it not been for that engaging drawl of Jennifer’s. And let’s get real here: pretty blondes sell records, linebacker dykes in bad haircuts do not. So yeah, I’d say Kristen was showing good judgement in calling up Jennifer Nettles to front the group. And Jennifer is correct in pointing it out. And she did it more tactfully than I did too.

  52. John
    August 6, 2010 at 6:03 am

    Stormy is on to something:

    I think we should send Nettles, Julianne Hough, and Kellie Pickler to a vocals coach. I bet Nettles and Hough could be helped. As far as Pickler I think that is a hopeless situation.

  53. Leeann
    August 6, 2010 at 6:11 am

    J.R.,
    Yup, I’ll say she did.

    John,
    All three of them have good voices, even Pickler, though I think Nettles has the strongest, most distinctive voice.

  54. Brady Vercher
    August 6, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Does anyone else find it amusing that a self-avowed feminist chooses to view other women as interchangeable based on the color of their hair?

  55. Stormy
    August 6, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    Brady:
    To be interchangable with Jennifer a female singer would need to be blonde, cute and thin enough to be the group eye candy, be vocally generic and have a tendancy (or be trained to) cover up vocal flaws by singing through their nose.

  56. Leeann
    August 6, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Seriously? You’re going to knock a country singer for singing through her nose?

  57. Leeann
    August 6, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    And, again, how is Jennifer Nettles a generic singer? I honestly don’t get it. I understand when people say that her voice is grating, but I cannot grasp “interchangeable”, “generic”, or even “vocal flaws.”

  58. Jon
    August 6, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Now, Stormy, just a couple of days ago, you told us that the only thing a singer has to do to be “technically good” was to sing in tune. Now you seem to be saying there are other “flaws” that can be hidden by singing through the nose. It starts to make me wonder if you’re not making this stuff up as you’re going along.

  59. Jim Malec
    August 6, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Jennifer Nettles, generic? Many things she though she may be, generic ain’t one of them.

  60. Ben Foster
    August 6, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Jennifer Nettles just has a very unique voice that doesn’t resonate as well with some people as it does with others. When Sugarland first hit the music scene, I wasn’t quite on board because I wasn’t sure I liked her voice. But I really grew on me, and I now tout her as one of the most talented ladies who are currently popular in country music. But even now when I listen to some older Sugarland songs, I still think she sounds better now than she did then.

    As for the new offering from Taylor…eh… I dunno. She’s a very limited vocalist, and that sounded pretty screechy to me. She’s not the best singer, but I know I’ve at least heard her sound better than THAT. But it’s still Taylor, so it’s a guaranteed Top 10 hit nonetheless.

  61. Stormy
    August 6, 2010 at 8:32 pm

    Leeann and Jim:
    By generic I mean that when I turn on the radio and hear a Sugarland song I have to wait until it gets to the title line before I know its a Sugarland song instead of hearing Jennifer’s voice and recognizing it instantly. I shouldn’t have to know the song to know the singer.

    Jon: Where did I say that Jennifer’s problems weren’t with pitch? The flatter she gets the more nasal she gets.

  62. Leeann
    August 6, 2010 at 9:20 pm

    Well, I suppose I can’t argue with your ability to distinguish voices then.

  63. Jon
    August 6, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    Where did you say that Nettles’ alleged problems were with pitch? Oh, that’s right: nowhere, right up until I pointed out that your claim didn’t make sense in the context of your comments of just a few days ago. Now you’re not only telling us that you believe that she has pitch problems, and that you believe that pitch problems can be “covered up” by sounding nasal – which is utter baloney – but that you believe these traits (singing flat, and adopting a nasal tone in a vain effort to cover it up) are so widespread among country music’s top female artists that you can’t tell her singing from that of anyone else’s.

    I think “making this stuff up as you’re going along” covers all that quite nicely.

  64. Leeann
    August 6, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    Stormy, I’m sorry, but I have to agree with Jon. You’re moving the goalposts here. Either that, or you’re just not explaining yourself very well. Sometimes, terse comments, which you typically start off with, can easily be misread/misinterpreted.

  65. Stormy
    August 6, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    Jon: What vocal flaws did you think I was talking about?

  66. Jon
    August 7, 2010 at 6:24 am

    I dunno, Stormy; when you’re making it up as you go along, anything’s possible. I’m still chortling over the way you’ve backed yourself into claiming that there’s an army of cute blonde female country soundalike singers with pitch problems who cover them up by singing through their noses.

  67. Stormy
    August 7, 2010 at 10:43 am

    Jon: I’m not making anything up as I go along. I’m being required to clear up your erroneous assumptions. You know what they say about assumptions–u and umptions.

    As for an army of sound alike singers, in blonde, brunette male and female, I don’t know why that surprises you.

  68. Jon
    August 7, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Thanks, Stormy, but Occam’s Razor tells us that “you’re making it up as you go along” is the correct answer. It is certainly more plausible than believing that you think there’s an army of cute blonde female country soundalike singers with pitch problems who cover them up by singing through their noses. After all, what are the odds that someone would be that out of touch with reality?

  69. Stormy
    August 7, 2010 at 6:33 pm

    You have listened to mainstream radio lately, right?

  70. Jon
    August 7, 2010 at 8:09 pm

    Yes, and not only do I – along with millions of others – have no problem in picking out Jennifer Nettles’ singing, but I haven’t heard one single singer covering up pitch problems by getting more nasal. No surprise there, really, since the entire notion is laughable to anyone conversant with singing and music.

  71. Country Girl
    August 31, 2010 at 12:30 am

    You are missing the point of the Sugarland lawsuit – Krsiten did leave the band, but she did not leave her right to profit from her contribution. She named the band, wrote the single (Sugarland) and most of their first album that made their name. Kristian had been a respected songwriter in Nashville before, but got nowhere fame-wise as he is a short, banty rooster of a man with an attitude problem, a liar and has a tendency to steal others creative work product. When Kristen approached Kristian and they started a band, asking Jennifer to join it was nothing more than serendipity. They were both performing at Eddie’s Attic one night and asked her to sing one of their songs as an experiment. It worked and the “trio” was born. It is also relevant to point out that Sugarland actually consisted of 7 members, not just three, and I have the poster to prove it. Those members have already sued over being forced out and selttled with confidentiality agreements in place to cover Kristian’s ass – funny that no one still knows this.

    Jennifer may be the only part of the duo that matters at this point (as even Kristian makes clear with his constant simpering on stage) and she should go solo despite her unbelievable ego and lack of any kind of perspective (as she has both an incredibly powerful voice and magnificent breath control) but Kristen’s argument is valid. I hope she wins BIG.

  72. Manship83
    January 31, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Hey Waynoe, shoot me an email. Just wondering who ya are lol. Allan Manship Is my dad.

  73. WAYNOE
    January 31, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Manship83,

    I will send you one shortly – look forward to it.

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