Rhonda Vincent Notches Another Entertainer of the Year Win at Bluegrass Awards

Brody Vercher | February 5th, 2008

  1. Lanibug65
    February 5, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    I love the article on RF — hmmm, they dont like RF???

  2. Dave S
    February 5, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    I’m hoping Emmylou Harris is finally inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. She’s still an absolutely incredible talent even after all these years, and I can’t think of anyone else more deserving.

  3. Mike W.
    February 5, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    I love the fact all these articles are coming out about Rascal Flatts not being country. Didnt we all know that, like, 6 years ago?

    Even their fans have to admit, that they are far from a traditional Country band, hell, I would compare them to the Eagles. Now, before everyone wants to kill me for that comment, the Eagles were much better song writers and artists, but the Eagles were and still are a Soft-rock band that happened to have Country influences in a few songs and now are played on Country radio.

  4. Hollerin' Ben
    February 5, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    As far as the HOF goes, the idea that they induct 3 people every year is pretty ridiculous. The fact they divide it up into such specific timeframes is even more ridiculous.

    that being said, there are plenty of people who should be in there who aren’t. I’d probably put David Allan Coe, Gram Parsons, Billy Joe Shaver, and Townes Van Zandt towards the top of the list.

  5. Paul W Dennis
    February 5, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    This is what should happen with the CMHOF and the order in which it should happen:

    1) Connie Smith – the best female singer ever
    2) Jean Shepard
    3) Mel Tillis
    4) Tom T. Hall
    5) The Statler Brothers
    6) Don Law – record producer
    7) Emmylou Harris
    8) Ronnie Milsap
    9) The Oak Ridge Boys
    10) Dallas Frazier – probably the greatest songwriter not named Merle Haggard of Harlon Howard
    11) Hank Williams Jr
    12) Chet Flippo
    13) Tanya Tucker
    14) Barbara Mandrell
    15) Reba

    However, I expect that what will happen is that Kenny Rogers and Barbara Mandrell make it this year along with Reba

  6. Mr. Sandy
    February 5, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    My HOF predictions:

    Tom T. Hall
    Emmylou Harris
    Hank Jr.

  7. Chris N.
    February 6, 2008 at 1:15 am

    If I’m reading the rules correctly (and I may not), this year there should be a pre-WWII nominee, a post-WWII nominee and a post-1975 nominee. So I’ll go with:

    June Carter Cash
    Hank Jr.
    Reba McEntire

  8. Baron Lane
    February 6, 2008 at 9:23 am

    HOF Prediction: Gram Parsons

    and then apes will rule the earth….

  9. Chris N.
    February 6, 2008 at 9:39 am

    Then the apes will nominate David Allan Coe.

  10. Hollerin' Ben
    February 6, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    Chris N,

    those are pretty good picks. how does the pre-WWII and post-WWII thing work? Is that the timeframe of their career of the time of their birth? June would be a post-WWII artist according to career time wouldn’t she?

    So you guys don’t think its too likely for Gram or DAC huh?

  11. Mike W.
    February 6, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    The Country Music Hall of Fame isnt gonna put someone who died of a drug overdose, like Gram Parsons in the Hall of Fame. David Allan Coe recorded an X-rated album during the 70′s (I believe) and generally seems to both shun and be shunned by Nashville so no way does he get in. I like both, but it just aint gonna happen.

    Tom T. Hall definately deserves it, “I hope it rains at my funeral” is one of, if not my favorite songs of all time

  12. Hollerin' Ben
    February 6, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    You’re probably right about both Gram and DAC unfortunately, but it’s quite the stretch for the HOF to argue that a person who died in his 20′s due to substance abuse isn’t HOF material.

    poor DAC, super-overlooked all the time. Don’t you think that he’ll eventually get in? After he’s dead maybe? I mean, outside of Cash, he’s probably the artist who has the most street-cred and he’s probably the only “legend” who is pulling a young, new audience to country who are passionate about music.

    Tom T. Hall is rad as well.

  13. Chris N.
    February 6, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Here are the rules:

    “In 2005, and in every third year thereafter, Career Achieved National Prominence Prior to WWII will alternate with the Musician & Non-Performer categories.
    In 2005, and every year thereafter, the Open Category will be split in two so that there will be Career achieved national prominence between WWII and 1975 (through 1974) and Career achieved national prominence between 1975-current (beginning in 1975).”

    I think 2008 would be “the third year thereafter,” wouldn’t it?

    June started performing with the Carter Family in the late 1930s, so I’m thinking she can slide in there.

  14. M.C.
    February 6, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Ben–I don’t believe the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum itself argues that Gram Parson shouldn’t be in the HOF. Parsons is represented as part of the permanent exhibit there, but otherwise I don’t think you hear the HOF as an institution publicly or privately advocating for membership one way or another.

    As for the annual selections, the CMA sets the criteria and a CMA special committee makes the selections. The committee members are kept secret, I believe.

    The HOF museum and the non-profit foundation that runs it is simply the place where the Hall of Fame plaques are displayed and its members honored, within the context of country music history. Obviously, since Hank Williams was elected the first year, someone in their 20s who died of a drug overdose already is in the HOF.

    Paul–Mel Tillis was elected to the HOF in 2007.

    There’s a lot of deserving people on all these lists, and more, especially old-timers like Charley Poole, the Stanley Brothers, the Stonemans, etc.

  15. Paul W Dennis
    February 7, 2008 at 6:01 am

    For some reason, I’d forgotten about Mel’s induction – slot the next name up on the list as to who should get in – Tom T Hall

    Gram Parsons didn’t have a very long career. As a country performer, it was shorter than Hank Williams Sr. or Jimmie Rodgers, the two shortest careers that I can think of among inductees, and he didn’t have nearly the impact that they did. Actually, Parsons is the top of my all-time “Overrated” List, a mediocre singer with no hits whose influence was mostly on Rock music and Rock musicians (except for his influence on Emmylou)

    DAC probably belongs in the Biker Music Hall of Fame – he’s played in the Orlando area numerous times at various biker bars – he doesn’t seem to have much appeal beyond that group

    If this is the year for a pre-WW2 act to be nominated, I’d suggest Bradley Kincaid, Rex Griffin and Al Dexter before June Carter (who was primarily post WW2

  16. M.C.
    February 7, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Bradley Kincaid definitely should be in the Hall of Fame.

    Parsons tends to bring out polarizing arguments–a lot of people worship him, a lot of others consider him far over-rated. Of course he didn’t have the impact of Hank or Jimmie Rodgers. But if that were the criteria for getting into the HOF, it’d be an awfully small group.

    I think Parson’s voice had a lot of soul and emotion to it, which made up for its limitations, and several of his songs and performances had a powerful affect on a lot of artists and listeners. He deserves his place in American music history for how he drew on aspects of country, soul and rock to create a style of fresh style, something that drew on tradition but was of the moment, that resonated with a lot of people.

    Does he deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, though? I don’t think his place is as secure there as many others, including those he influenced, like Emmylou. But I think Paul underestimates Parsons impact on country music, from the Eagles to Rodney Crowell to Dwight Yoakam to Lucinda Williams–and on and on. It’s a long list. If you consider the impact of the Eagles and Emmylou, two acts that wouldn’t have done what they did if not for Parsons’ influence, then Parsons’ role becomes even more important.

    So I think a good argument can be made that Parsons deserves his spot there. But I also think its doubtful he’ll get it.

  17. Paul W Dennis
    February 7, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    You make my point well, M.C. much of Parson’s influence was on non-country acts such as Lucinder William and the Eagles. In so far as Parsons was influential ir was as a conduit back to more influential acts such as the Louvin Brothers, Buck Owens and Merle Haggard.

    I didn’t say I dislike Parsons – far from it as I have most of his recordings, but for a very short career to be Hall-worthy, it really does need to be on the level of a Jimmie Rodgers or Hank Sr.

    BTW – Kudos for knowing of Bradley Kincaid – I half expected his name to be unknown to everyone on this forum

  18. Chris N.
    February 7, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Wasn’t he the Partridge Family’s manager?

  19. Krista
    February 7, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    That was Reuben…..

  20. rascal flatts lover
    February 8, 2008 at 11:01 pm

    i love rascal flatts!!! they are amazing.
    i saw them in concert in september.
    watch the video!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=OziZG4fWuv4

    everyone needs to go see them in concert, its amazing. i love them!

  21. ccf
    February 9, 2008 at 11:02 am

    The video of the Flatts proves they have no talent.

  22. Hollerin' Ben
    February 12, 2008 at 8:34 pm

    Paul,

    The top of the all-time overrated list?????????

    Holy smokes man!

    you might as well have slapped my mama.

    Seriously though, it is an excellent insight that one of Gram’s strengths was as a conduit to traditional country music.

    That being said, I think that he had a profound influence on many country musicians, not just rock musicians, it just depends on how you look at it.

    Naturally, Dwight, Emmylou, and Rodney Crowell, come to mind, but also most of the Alt-Country and Americana scene artists have been influenced by Gram. Sure he was a conduit, but his take on country music was distinct and captivating enough to give him the position of respect that he has. He’s like a beacon of authenticity to the crowd out here in LA. And I think that he’s earned that position.

    You can argue that because he’s influenced artists who are pitched under the label of Americana (Like the Hacienda Brothers for example) rather than artists who are marketed under the country label (Like Rhett Atkins or Keith Anderson) that his influence becomes insignificant to the country hall of fame, but I think that if we limit what we consider to be an impactful career on the basis of whether or not it influenced this generation of nashville pop-ac country performers, that most great country artists from the past would have to be eliminated from consideration.

    In the California country scene alone, Mike Stinson, Dave Gleason, and David Serby are all deeply, deeply country, and in a very present way (read: they are not throwback, vintage acts) and all 3 are deeply influenced by Gram.

    My point is that Gram’s influence isn’t all Alt-Country, which is essentially country rock. His influence is still very prevalent among artists who are working within the honky-tonk genre, as well as acoustic acts that emphasize the high-lonesome sound, in other words, artists are are working very hard to preserve and innovate along the lines of traditional country music.

    In view of that, the fact that Sugarland probably don’t know any Gram songs means absolutely nothing to me in terms of weighing his impact and influence on country music.

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