Keith Urban – “Without You”

Blake Boldt | February 15th, 2011

Keith UrbanSongwriters: Dave Pahanish, Thomas Walker and Joe West

“Without You,” the second single from Keith Urban’s pseudo EP Get Closer, gives a glimpse into fine-tuned domestic bliss. Against a lazy-day groove, Urban and producer Dann Huff have added little bursts of banjo to display his obvious joy for his home life. While a barrage of percussion mars a good portion of Nashville material, Urban’s songs, though indistinguishable at times, are usually understated. “Without You” is no exception.

With Nicole Kidman serving as his gorgeous inspiration, Urban sings of her love as the consummation of a lifelong dream. In the chorus, it’s made clear that the Academy Award-winning actress doesn’t play second fiddle to an old guitar: “The fast cars, the guitars, they are all just second to/This life, this love that you and I have been dreaming of.

The passage about daughter Sunday Rose is also a sweet touch (“Along comes a baby girl, and suddenly my little world/Just got a whole lot bigger“) and underscores Urban’s recent sentiments of being more centered as a man and as an artist. Though these odes of devotion are a welcome sign that he’s unburdened himself of his demons, “Without You” is a step sideways in his career. A rare ballad among his recent work, it’s lacking the excitement of past hits.

Marriage has apparently had a terrific effect on him, and no one should begrudge him that fact. But Urban is at his best when exploring the heart’s aches and pains, even as expressed on uptempo tunes like “Days Go By” and “Somebody Like You” that find him seeking comfort in either a sweet companion or the open road. One of the most emotive vocalists in the genre, Urban has chosen a song that might fit his life, but doesn’t feel all that vital or visionary. A pleasant bit of country pop, “Without You” will stick with you for four minutes and no more.

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  1. Ben Foster
    February 15, 2011 at 9:47 am

    ‘Fraid so. It stuck with me for four minutes, but those four minutes are over now. But maybe I’ll like his next single better. This one isn’t bad; it’s just kind of boring.

  2. Noeller
    February 15, 2011 at 10:21 am

    i’ve been saying for awhile now that Urban’s happiness with life in general is ruining his music. It’s become so BORING without the so-called “demons” that created great art. His last album, he was like a lovestruck girl plucking petals from a flower “sigh…she loves me, she loves me not…” and while this is sort of interesting, at least musically (the banjo is a nice touch) — it’s still artistically boring to see him so happy.

  3. Rich
    February 15, 2011 at 10:22 am

    I haven’t enjoyed a Keith Urban album since “Be Here” which just so happens to coincide with the arrival of the one I call “The Succubus”. His stuff has just been real blah ever since Nicole’s arrival. Sorry Keith, I know your happy, but I miss the old ‘good” stuff.

  4. WAYNOE(alias)
    February 15, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Yeh, but he will get another Grammy. They oh so love the Hellywood connection. The Grammy’s are running a close race with the CMA Awards on which one is more irrelevant.

  5. gloria
    February 15, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Thanks Waynoe, I bet Keith will be glad to know that. His Grammy was warranted IMO. Compared to that Outlaw mess some of you think is so wonderful his song was really the better vocal performance. Be warned, Miranda Lambert stated that since she has been in love, it’s going to be harder to write Country songs.

  6. Matt B
    February 15, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    I actually have loved this song from the first time I heard Pahanish do it himself and it does stick with me, quite a bit.

    Also, Dave Pahanish and Joe West are the only songwriters on the song (as credited on Urban’s album and in songwriter databases).

  7. gloria
    February 15, 2011 at 2:42 pm

    Emily West is the one that called Keith when she heard this song saying that it fit his life perfect. Keith said it was the most biographical song he never wrote! I love the song.

  8. Dr. No
    February 15, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Pretty vanilla to me.

  9. Irina
    February 15, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    I love this song; it is delivered exquisitely. I have listened to it almost every day since Get Closer was released. It brings me to tears often -isn’t that the sign of a great song? His music resonates with me because it truly comes from the heart.

  10. Mike Wimmer
    February 15, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Yeah, I’m not a fan either. It’s a fine love song and more “Country” sounding than most of Keith’s recent songs.

    As happy as I am to see Keith Urban happy and content with his life, it has made his music incredibly boring.

    Not every song needs to shake the world with importance, but lately it seems far too much of Country Music is unrelated to anyone not blissfully in love (very few of us are, even if we have a partner in life) or are a teenage girl.

  11. Eric
    February 15, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    I’m not in love with this, or for that matter, anything on the “album”. The album as a whole was a huge letdown, coming on the heels of “Defying Gravity”, which I loved. It seems that Keith can’t handle extreme happiness (as evidenced here) or extreme sadness (“Love, Pain, & the Whole Crazy Thing” is terrible aside from a few select songs). This song, like it’s album-mates, feels forced and rushed.

  12. Vicki
    February 15, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Ok..women will love this song. I heard it and just cried. It was so good to hear a song from a guy that lays out his heart so freely like this. (Guys take note!). No, it’s not a up tempo Urban regular, but it sure hit me and I have been talking about it over a week now, not the 4 minutes you suggested but then you’re a guy.

  13. SW
    February 15, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    I disagree, I think this is a really good song – although obviously written with KU in mind.

  14. WAYNOE(Alial)
    February 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    @Vicki – And this is the group Suburban Urban caters to. Nothing wrong with that, just sayin’.

  15. WAYNOE(Anial)
    February 15, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    I do look for the Opry to eventually ask Urban to join. Just a feeling.

  16. Stormy
    February 15, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Vicki: I’m a woman and I don’t love it.

    Noeller: Trisha Yearwood once said the reason she sings so many sad songs is because its hard to find happy songs that aren’t stupid.

  17. WAYNOE(Axial)
    February 15, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Great quote by Trisha. I don’t mind some, but I like it spread around other artists a bit more.

  18. Nancy
    February 16, 2011 at 6:32 am

    You know, Keith is “damned if you do; damned if you don’t”. I love the whole extended version of this album. “Without You” is a great song, one that Keith has said that he would not have permitted himself to write, but that it fit so well into his life right now. I have this feeling that if Keith had just released “Days Go By” from the BE HERE album, your response would be the same.

  19. stormy
    February 16, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Waynoe: Kasey Chambers also once pointed out that generally when you are happy you want to go out and enjoy it. Its only when you’re sad that you want to curl up and write.

  20. WAYNOE(Amnesia)
    February 16, 2011 at 8:52 am

    @Stormy. Understand that. To me, my personal issue is with Urban really. He embodies what is wrong with country music today in my humble non-Jon opinion.

  21. Bea
    February 16, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Never posted on this site before but I had to respond to your comments. I imagine that the kind of country music you want back is what my husband calls “dying calf in a hailstorm” sounding songs. When that was standard for country music, we wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole. It’s Keith’s kind of country music that has us listening and loving this genre. I love Without You as I love the whole extended version of Get Closer. It’s a fantastic album.

  22. numberonecountryfan
    February 16, 2011 at 10:54 am

    First, welcome to the 9513 Bea. It is great to have new people join in on the conversations.
    Second, I agree. Keith Urban is a terrific performer and showman. Really knows how to play the guitar and has excellent songs to match.

  23. gloria
    February 16, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    I see it different….Keith Urban has helped make country music better and brought fans over to CM way before Taylor Swift did. I admit I’m an older lady and never was a big lover of the older traditional country music. I just literally hate the twang. I’m more of country rock. I could care less about George Jones, Merle Haggard. I liked some of Johnny Cash,Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette,and so on. It just depends on the song, not just the artist. I respect the people mentioned above, but I’m not crazy about their music. Give me a Keith song anyday before you play Chris Young, Justin Moore, Josh Turner and not too much of Brad Paisley. Now I do love Alan Jackson and George Strait, but their not real twangy. Keith, to me, is also an outstanding entertainer as well as a wonderful vocalist. Guess this means I have no taste in music to some of you, but to me, some of you lack taste in music too. I think some of you just personally do not care for Keith regardless of what kind of music he puts out.

  24. Chickette
    February 16, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Fans like Gloria are what happens when Nashville tries to win over people who don’t like country music.

  25. stormy
    February 16, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    What song was about a dying calf in a hailstorm? That song sounds awesome!

  26. stormy
    February 16, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Gloria: So basically you like country when it doesn’t sound country. That’s cool. I like Brazillian Trash Metal when it sounds like Irish Folk with a side of Bollywood, but no one makes that.

  27. Barry Mazor
    February 16, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Well, there are jobs out there for Gloria, as a radio programmer. (I’m ducking.)

  28. DJ
    February 16, 2011 at 1:17 pm


    Do you mean guitar twang or vocal twang?

    I hate bland, neutered Aussie pop music mislabeled as country music.

  29. WAYNOE(who am I?)
    February 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    @#1COUNTRYFAN-Never said Urban could’t play guitar or didn’t have excellent songs.

    @Chickette – Seems counterproductive to have a pop/country act try to win over pop fans to country by playing pop songs. What’s the point!

    @Bea – “I imagine that the kind of country music you want back is what my husband calls “dying calf in a hailstorm” sounding songs.” Come on. You can do better than that

    Again, progressive country doesn’t have to automatically equate to pop does it?

  30. Bea
    February 16, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    Hey – checked back and I see I got some comments. Great! The “dying calf in a hailstorm” referred to the twangy steel and slide guitar sounds. I know lots of people love it, but we just don’t.

    As far as contemporary country equating to pop – if that were true, pop radio would play them and they mostly won’t. As a Keith Urban fan, I have been wishing he would be heard outside the country genre but so far, it really hasn’t happened much. Country music has been changing and evolving from it’s inception. It is America’s music and it needs to change as we do to stay relevant to the times.

  31. stormy
    February 16, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Pop radio plays Keith Urban quite a lot actually.

  32. DJ
    February 16, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Stormy is right.

    I remember the pop version of Who Wouldn’t Want To Be Me being played without the banjo on pop stations.

  33. DJ
    February 16, 2011 at 3:33 pm

    Oops, I meant “Somebody Like You,” not “Who Wouldn’t Want To Be Me.”

    The blandness all runs together for me.

  34. Jon
    February 16, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Pop radio plays Keith Urban quite a lot actually.

    Actually, that must be an unlabeled opinion, or theorizing, because actually, he’s had exactly one song get onto the Top 40 (a/k/a pop) airplay chart. “You’ll Think Of Me” made it to #38 on Billboard’s pop chart 5 years ago. Actually, you can look it up – although maybe Billboard is just theorizing about that, actually.

  35. gloria
    February 16, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Yeah Stormy, you pretty much have it right. If country radio is the only place I can hear Keith, then that’s where I tune in, even if I have to be tortured by the twangers. Sounds like most of you are out of work comedians who need the jobs as radio programmers, because it’s obvious some of you think you are so funny & cute. I do laugh when I read some of the comments that are posted here. If I’m bored, I come here and read what you so called “music geniuses” are commenting and arguing about. Solving the worlds musical woes. See ya when the next song is reviewed.

  36. Vicki
    February 16, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Ok..I agree I don’t like ALL of Keith’s records as he is Country pop/rock but some songs especially his ballads are outstanding. I melt when I hear this song.

  37. Sayshal
    February 16, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    I think Keith’s album is pretty solid. This song is too personal to Keith’s life for me, so it’s not my favorite, but it’s far from “bad”. I’d still say it’s a pretty good song compared to what else is out there though, and it’s saying a lot that this isn’t my favorite on the album, meaning I love the album.

    “Big Promises” is catchy. “Long Hot Summer”, while a summer-fluff song, is so cool-sounding and catchy, that it’ll certainly smash if released next. It’s not a “sappy” love song, so maybe it’ll bring some fans back to Keith. “Georgia Woods” and “Right On Back To You” are excellent tracks, along with “You Gonna fly”. The Lori McKenna song “The Luxury Of Knowing” is performed wonderfully by Keith, too, though I don’t see it as a single..

  38. Stormy
    February 16, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Jon: You might want to update his Wiki page then:

  39. Jon
    February 16, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    I’ll leave that to you, Stormy, since that site largely corroborates my statement about how little pop airplay Urban’s gotten and refutes yours – but hey, maybe it’s all just theorizing, right?

    Me, I’ll just go to the Billboard site to find out what I want to know about Billboard’s charts. And what they say is that your statement – sorry, your theorizing – about Urban getting played on “pop radio…quite a lot, actually” was, actually, wrong.

  40. Stephen H.
    February 17, 2011 at 2:15 am

    Stormy, that also shows that (in this case, only using Adult Contemporary as the “pop” barometer) that he’s had four singles chart there (“You’ll Think of Me”, “Making Memories of Us”, “Once in a Lifetime”, and “Kiss a Girl”), with maybe a couple other stragglers going on some other charts (too tired to also go to Billboard right now).

    The “Pop” listed there is the overall Pop 100, which is not necessarily a Pop airplay chart — unless we want to accuse Brad Paisley, for example, who’s had eight singles listed on that chart, to be played on pop radio quite frequently, which the only song that could even sort of fit that criteria would be “Then”.

  41. Stephen H.
    February 17, 2011 at 2:15 am

    … a song which didn’t even chart on the Pop 100 (but did receive considerable AC airplay)

  42. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 6:31 am

    It’s not the “Pop 100,” it’s the Hot 100, a cross-genre chart that includes streaming plays (whereas the Radio chart is a cross-genre terrestrial broadcast-only chart). Or maybe that’s just an opinion.

  43. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 7:54 am

    AC is also pop and he has a #2 song on AC.

  44. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Stephen: Combining all of the pop charts he has has a lot of cross over,

  45. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 8:10 am

    AC is also pop

    That’s your opinion, right? Theorizing? And what’s the theory here – that everything that isn’t country is pop?

    and he has a #2 song on AC

    Another opinion, right?

    According to BIllboard this morning, Urban’s had 25 songs on the country airplay chart. 10 were #1s, and all but 3 peaked in the top 10 – mostly in the top 5. On the other hand, 1 song got on the pop chart, peaking at #38, and 4 charted at AC, peaking at #2, #5, #11 and #26 – with the best of those being 6 years ago (it’s the same one that skimmed the bottom of the pop chart), and the latest being a year and a half ago.

    Under the circumstances, Stormy, it’s pretty clear that your statement that:

    Pop radio plays Keith Urban quite a lot actually.

    Is either an invalid theory, or – to use your word – a lie.

    If you want to call Urban’s music pop-influenced, be my guest; that would put him alongside country artists of every generation. But saying that he’s anything other than a country artist who’s enjoyed only occasional and limited crossover success is just wrong. Actually.

  46. luckyoldsun
    February 17, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Not too many years ago–maybe in the late ’90s, country hits suddenly started appearing on the Billboard Hot 100 (the “pop chart”) after being absent during the previous generation. In most cases, it wasn’t because pop stations started playing country records. It was because Billboard changed its methodology to include country airplay in the big chart. Artists like Strait and Alan Jackson suddenly started having “pop hits”–and no way they were being played on pop radio.

  47. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 8:54 am

    1. Can you link to this Keith Urban billboard chart?
    2. Before the merger Billboard measured sales and R&R measures airplay. How are you accessing information that Billboard was not actually monitoring?

  48. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Never Mind, I found it. It turns out he has 23 songs that hit the Hot 100 chart, the majority of which were Top 40.

  49. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 9:32 am

    @Stormy 2. Before the merger Billboard measured sales and R&R measures airplay.

    Another opinion? Theorizing? Or – your word – a lie? Because Billboard has, in fact, been reporting country airplay since October 20, 1958.

    Never Mind, I found it. It turns out he has 23 songs that hit the Hot 100 chart, the majority of which were Top 40.

    I’m glad you figured out how to look stuff up on the internet, but alas! you haven’t figured out how to read what it is that you’ve looked up. Because your link isn’t to the Hot 100, it’s to Billboard’s chart of “radio songs,” which is a chart that compares radio airplay across all genres. The “Radio Songs” chart differs from the Hot 100 insofar as the latter compares not just radio airplay, but also streaming activity on the internet – again, across all genres. (As @luckyoldsun noted, it hasn’t always been thus with the Hot 100 – and the “Radio Songs” chart is more recent still; it’s basically what the Hot 100 was post-consolidation but pre-streaming.)

    So basically, over the past few years, *any* song that makes the top 5 or 8 or 10 on Billboard’s country airplay chart will also appear on the “Radio Songs” chart, regardless of whether it gets any airplay on any other format (you can confirm this by looking at the “Radio Songs” chart performance of artists like George Strait and Alan Jackson).

    To see how country artists do in other formats, you have to look at the charts for…other formats. And if you look for Keith Urban on the Top 40 (a/k/a “Pop”) chart, or the AC chart, you’ll see exactly what I described.

  50. Chickette
    February 17, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Jon, must you always be so conentious? Ever try being nice to people? Or at least not treating everyone like blithering idiots?

  51. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Also Featured On16 Charts: Hot 100: 23 Songs Billboard 200: 7 Albums Country Songs: 25 Songs Country Albums: 8 Albums Pop Songs: 1 Song Radio Songs: 23 Songs Digital Songs: 9 Songs Digital Albums: 3 Albums Adult Contemporary: 4 Songs Catalog Albums: 4 Albums European Albums: 2 Albums Canadian Hot 100: 9 Songs Canadian Albums: 5 Albums AOL Video: 1 Song Adult Pop Songs: 3 Songs Tastemaker Albums: 1 Album

    There is a rundown on exactly how many songs Keith has on which charts. Now tell me Jon, what part of Hot 100: 23 Songs is hard?

  52. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 10:51 am

    @Stormy That’s a really sweet apology for having misread and/or misrepresented what was right in front of your face.

    Now, which part of “the Hot 100 compares not just radio airplay, but also streaming activity on the internet across all genres” do you not get? I mean, aside from the “across all genres” part – because anyone can see that you don’t get that part at all.

  53. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Who cares if they are played on land based pop radio stations or internet based pop radio stations.

    Also, given that he has song in ever pop category, are you still maintaining that he doesn’t get played on pop stations?

  54. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Once more: Billboard’s Hot 100 is not Billboard’s pop airplay chart; its pop airplay chart is called, not surprisingly, the pop chart. The Hot 100 is an all-genre report – that is, it reports on airplay in all genres. George Strait has had more songs on the Hot 100 than Keith Urban has.

    Also, given that he has song in ever pop category, are you still maintaining that he doesn’t get played on pop stations?

    I didn’t say that he doesn’t get played on pop stations, I said that he doesn’t get played a lot on pop stations. Which he doesn’t, not by any measure. He has exactly one (1) more song on Billboard’s pop chart than does George Strait.

  55. Tim W
    February 17, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    WROONNGG, I’m sorry please try again.

  56. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    I agree. He gets very little pop airplay, if we disregard all the charts that disprove your theory that he gets very little airplay.

    I am sure at this point in his career George Strait has had a few cross overs. George Strait has had 30 songs on the Hot 100 charts and 97 on the Country charts. Keith Urban has had 23 songs on the Hot 100 and 25 on the country charts.

  57. Me
    February 17, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I don”t think Keith’s happiness or lack of it, has a darn thing to do with it. Most of the comments on here pretty much show that everyone wants to be right. My own opinion is that he is one of the most talented men in any genre. His musicianship, is phenomenal.I love his vocals. I also believe that not everything is as it seems. Give the man a break. He really has great music and lyrics inside. He just needs the impetus to let them out. Someday, I believe he will.

  58. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    But Stormy, the Hot 100 isn’t Billboard’s pop chart; it’s an all genre chart. Which part of “all” don’t you understand?

  59. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    The part where I am supposed to defer to your opinion of what is and is not a pop chart.

  60. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    @Stormy it’s not my opinion, it’s Billboard’s description. I am going to theorize that where your description of what Billboard’s Hot 100 chart represents conflicts with Billboard’s description, theirs has the edge in believability. Especially when you tried to tell us that Billboard doesn’t report airplay when it’s actually been reporting airplay for a half century. I’m afraid your credibility took a bit of a hit there.

    Billboard’s charts show that Keith Urban hasn’t gotten much airplay outside of country radio, and what he has gotten there was mostly several years ago. Regardless of what one thinks of his musical style, to any honest and/or sentient observer, that fact is indisputable.

  61. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    Yeah, he only had a #2 single on AC radio.

  62. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 3:55 pm

    Exactly, Stormy. He had a – that is, one (1) – big hit at AC (not pop) radio a few years ago. While enjoying a couple dozen big hits at country radio over a much longer span that extends to the present day. As far as radio goes, he is a country artist, plain and simple.

  63. stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Well, and then there were the OTHER songs that got played on several other varieties of pop radio. But we won’t count those because they disprove your theory.

  64. Chickette
    February 17, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Since when is AC not pop?

  65. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Well, and then there were the OTHER songs that got played on several other varieties of pop radio. But we won’t count those because they disprove your theory.

    Actually, I counted those hours ago (see my post from 8:10 am). Since you seemed to have missed it, here are the data again. I’ll try to make it a little easier for you to read this time:

    25 songs on the country airplay chart.

    10 were #1s

    all but 3 peaked in the top 10 – mostly in the top 5.

    1 song got on the pop chart, peaking at #38,

    4 charted at AC, peaking at #2, #5, #11 and #26

    So, to summarize:

    # of Keith Urban songs in the country top 40: 25
    # of Keith Urban songs in the pop top 40: 1
    # of Keith Urban songs in the AC top 40: 4

    # of Keith Urban songs in the country top 10: 22
    # of Keith Urban songs in the pop top 10: 0
    # of Keith Urban songs in the AC top 10: 2

    Now, because Chickette’s wanting me to be nice, I’ll look at all the action in terms of country airplay vs. non-country airplay. Furthermore, even though the one song he got on the pop chart also appeared on the AC chart, I’ll count it separately (even though it’s the same song). Here’s what we’ve got:

    ratio of Keith Urban country top 40 songs to non-country top 40 songs:

    25 to 5 (but really 4). That’s 5 to 1 (but really a little more than 6 to 1)

    ratio of Keith Urban country top 10 songs to non-country top 10 songs:

    22 to 2. That’s 11 to 1.

    So the OTHER songs don’t disprove my “theory”; in what I’m sure you find a conceptually baffling move, I looked at ALL these songs and chart data before making a statement of fact: Urban has not gotten a lot of pop radio airplay.

    But thanks for playing. Our hostess has some lovely parting gifts for you.

  66. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    @Chickette. Billboard calls it a rock format. Why should I take your opinion over theirs, given that it’s their chart? Not that it makes any difference with respect to Urban (see above).

  67. Stormy
    February 17, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Keith Urban calls his music Rock, when he’s in Europe.

  68. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Keith Urban calls his music Rock, when he’s in Europe.

    Let me guess: theorizing? Or is this one more thing you think you know that isn’t actually so? Like Billboard only reporting sales?

  69. WAYNOE(ME)
    February 17, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Some of us do not live or die by Billboard for heaven’s sake. Glad to see Jon as the defender of pop-country. Sorry cat. Pretending to be young does not make one so.

  70. Jon
    February 17, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Billboard’s charts are a good way to see what kind of airplay artists and recordings are getting, which in turn is an important piece of how they’re being marketed and to whom (and how successfully), which in turn is an important piece of understanding music history in general and country music history in particular as they’re happening. And that – a genuine understanding of and appreciation for country music and country music history – is what I’m “defending.” I’m sorry to hear that you have no respect for them – sorry, but not surprised.

  71. luckyoldsun
    February 17, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    The Stormy-Jon discussion, sounds suspiciously like the Ali G-Shaquille O’Neal talk

  72. Stormy
    February 18, 2011 at 12:10 am

    Unless you exclude all of the charts that don’t say what you want them to say.

  73. Jon
    February 18, 2011 at 6:13 am

    Unless you exclude all of the charts that don’t say what you want them to say.

    Uh-oh, are you going to theorize now that the Canadian albums chart is really another pop airplay chart?

  74. stormy
    February 18, 2011 at 7:42 am

    No, Jon. Just the pop charts which are relevant to how much pop airplay Urban is getting. Just like the sales charts are relevant to what artists are selling, even when they reflect sales of artists you want to pretend aren’t selling.

  75. Jon
    February 18, 2011 at 8:52 am

    Just the pop charts which are relevant to how much pop airplay Urban is getting.

    But I haven’t ignored those; in fact, I presented his activity on those charts in more depth than you ( see my post from 4:40 pm yesterday). They show your theory that Urban’s music gets played a lot on pop radio to be laughably wrong.

    Perhaps the problem is that you don’t understand what airplay, sales and charts actually are. Just theorizing…

  76. stormy
    February 18, 2011 at 9:59 am

    Or perhaps the problem is that you don’t understand what AC actually is.

  77. Jon
    February 18, 2011 at 10:22 am

    What the AC chart shows is that Urban’s gotten little AC airplay – just 4 songs in total, with only one (1) in the top 10, and most of it coming years ago. His AC airplay has been dwarfed by his country airplay. Your statement that Urban gets a lot of airplay on pop radio is unsupported by the AC or any other chart. Like his music or not, he is clearly marketed and appreciated as a country, not pop artist.

  78. Jen
    February 18, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    I like this song a lot. I don’t think it was a good choice for a single but what do I know. I didn’t think Put You in a Song would do well and it got to #2. I think this CD is very good, about as good as Defying Gravity. Be Here and Golden Road are hard to top. I certainly wouldn’t want Keith to go back to being unhappy but I’m not sure we will ever get those type of songs again from him.

  79. judy
    February 18, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    I love Keiths music all of it. Its not la la la K.C. or hard to listen to muffuled B.P. Its just great music his concerts there is no one that comes any where near Him oh maybe Jason A.h’es getting there. But if you dont like Keith why are you listening or commenting. Go to the site you like because we who don’t give a crap about your comments.I’ve walked out of both B.P.and K.concerts but i dont go to there sites and comment.

  80. Ashley
    February 18, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Some of y’all do not know what you are talking about and are just plain old rude.

    Keith Urban is one amazing, talented, down to earth man and this is just another amazing song by him. I think the reason it is so good is because of how simple it is. You can tell he is really singing from the heart. The lyrics sound like he could have wrote them himself. It’s just so true, and real, and genuine. Not a lot of men would write songs like this, and that is what makes Keith stand apart-and ahead of everyone else!!

  81. WAYNOE(Jon's Friend)
    February 18, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    @Ashley – Who said he wasn’t talented?

  82. Marie
    February 19, 2011 at 12:03 am

    There are only two kinds of music: one you like and one you don’t. If people on this board don’t like it, it’s okay. Every one of us has different taste in music, clothes, jewelry, cars, vacation spots, hobbies, etc. No one is right or wrong. Speaking for my taste, however, I love this song. The melody is pleasing to my ears and thought the arrangement (especially the fiddle and ganjo) is perfect in its simplicity. I felt the same way upon hearing George Strait’s “You take my breath away” for the first time which prompted me to buy the record. Again, I like George’s song because of the melody and arrangement (did I hear the fiddles?)

    We have to be thankful to have the freedom to listen to music we like and have artists share their creative minds with us. So please stop arguing over what is good and what is not. Nobody wins in this argument.

  83. Caroline
    February 19, 2011 at 6:06 am

    Keith is the best! I really love this song, it sounds very awesome!

  84. Sue Ann
    February 19, 2011 at 7:09 am

    You are not serious right? First of all Keith didn’t even write this song. He has even said it is the most autobiographical song he has never written. I love the way he pours his emotions in every song he sings. Whether it is a rocker or a ballad. The guitar, violin and banjo are deliberately understated on this song to allow his beautiful voice to shine through. Sometimes I am not sure what people are hearing. I guess some people prefer to have a chicken drink some beer and sit on a tropical island with a cheating wife and their pick up truck in the mud saying this is country music…all the time!

  85. Marc
    February 19, 2011 at 8:36 am

    @Ashley – Mr. Urban is very talented, and plays good safe music. Not a lick of it is country music, but he and his similar artists (Flatts, etc) don’t seem to mind as they count their piles of cash from housewives who don’t know or care otherwise.

  86. Jon
    February 19, 2011 at 8:44 am

    Ah, the evergreen slam at country music *and* at women – a classic two-fer.

  87. Kathy
    February 19, 2011 at 9:59 am

    @Marc – If you think only housewives listen to Keith Urban, you are sadly mistaken. Women and men from all walks of life, across the world and across all political spectrums enjoy and buy his music and attend his entertainer of the year concerts.

  88. Alice
    February 19, 2011 at 10:32 am

    I DISAGREE EXTREMELY with the reviewer. Keith Urban is a magnificent talent, beautiful voice, distinctive and unusual. His guitar skills are the very BEST, but here he has the artistic integrity to allow the song to speak. He is magnificent and this is a beautiful song! I love it and I love the whole ‘Get Closer’ album. Amazing, awesome music!

  89. Stormy
    February 19, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    No one is really arguing Urban’s talents.

  90. Jolene
    February 19, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    WOWIE a lot of strong opinions about Keith and Without You!! My opinion is plain and simple .. I LOVE the vocals and humility in Without You!!! What’s not to LOVE about fantastic vocals and some down to earth humility?!!

  91. WAYNOE
    February 19, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Although this is just my opinion as the only one that knows facts is Jon, if one was to gage the fan base of Urban and Flatts, it would probably be closer to Marc’s assertion than some would care to admit.

  92. Marie
    February 19, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    “Although this is just my opinion as the only one that knows facts is Jon………………………………..”

    Who cares about facts? I certainly don’t. I love listening to music that I LIKE. To me, that’s all that matters. If I were in the music industry wanting to reach me and my deep pockets, they need to talk to me.

  93. Stephen H.
    February 19, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Much belated reply to Jon — I was referring to the Pop 100 chart that is listed on the Wikipedia page Stormy linked to. The “US” on that page is the Hot 100. I was referring to the former.

  94. Stormy
    February 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    That chart isn’t one that Jon will allow us to count.

  95. Stephen H.
    February 19, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    And I should have read the entire thread to receive context; whoops. The purpose of the Hot 100 has been beaten into the ground in this thread, and there are still a few people who refuse to accept its definition as an all-genre, not pop, chart. Unless we want to allege, for example, that Alan Jackson’s “That’d Be Alright” was the 29th-most-popular pop song in America in 2002.

    Using the George Strait example above, I’ve noticed that the Hot 100 penetration by country artists has been far greater post-1993 as opposed to pre-1993. (Jackson’s first was in that year, as was Strait’s with “Easy Come, Easy Go”). Was there a change in the compilation of the chart at that time?

  96. Stephen H.
    February 19, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Although, actually, the Pop 100 isn’t such an indicator of crossover success as would be first apparent. Besides being discontinued in 2009 (or 2010 depending on source), it tracked airplay on mainstream top 40, singles sales, and downloads. How many of Urban’s songs that charted on the Pop 100 were based off of movement in the latter two categories? The criteria seems to indicate that a song could receive no Top 40 airplay and still sell well enough to qualify, and that’s no damnation towards Urban as a pop artist.

  97. WAYNOE
    February 19, 2011 at 10:14 pm


    You mean you do not faithfully read the critics and base your opinion upon what they? You make up your own mind without regard to journalistic impressions? Hey, I just might like you!

  98. Jon
    February 20, 2011 at 7:01 am

    @Stephen H. As a matter of fact, there are some discrepancies between what’s listed in that “US” column and what Bilboard’s website shows on its pop chart. Generally, speaking, it seems to me that Billboard is a better source of Billboard chart information, and that’s what I’ve gone with. I also think it is safe to think that songs which fail to get into the top 40 on an airplay chart cannot be said to have gotten lots of airplay.

  99. Berb
    February 20, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this song!! And I think that’s all I need to say.

  100. Stephen H.
    February 20, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Overall, Jon, I agree with you (even though it may not seem so at times through my comments). The discrepancies, and the problems that certain editors would give when changes would be attempted, is why I no longer do much with Wikipedia. If I’ve contradicted anything said over the last few days, I apologize and am not trying to be contrarian; after three days of no computer I wasn’t able to keep track of everything that’s been updated.

    Do I think Urban’s music leans pop? Yes. But has he received “lots of pop airplay”, as was originally alleged above? No. I knew that, and that was before all of the chart information provided.

  101. Jon
    February 20, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Gotcha, Stephen H. I didn’t know that when Stormy issued her claim, so I went and looked at the Billboard site before reaching that conclusion.

  102. Stephen H.
    February 20, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    At least you do your research.

    (BTW, I misspoke when saying I “knew” it. I was fairly certain, as I do listen to quite a bit of other genres and, other than AC, had never heard Urban anywhere else, but I didn’t “know”. Wrong word choice. And with this I’m shutting up, as I should learn not to get in the way of one of these one-sided debates, especially when I agree with the well-researched side. I just make myself look foolish.)

  103. Stormy
    February 20, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    AC is anothe chart we aren’t allowed to consider pop.

  104. Stephen H.
    February 20, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    But in retrospect I don’t know if it should. It seems to be a catch-all genre for a bunch of different music whose main similarity is being relatively “easy-listening”. I don’t know how many songs are truly “released” to AC radio as opposed to AC stations picking these songs up and playing them. (I have no basis for this.) As I said earlier, should Brad Paisley be considered “pop” for “Then” charting on AC radio? How about Big & Rich for “Lost in This Moment”? LeAnn Rimes has dabbled in pop in the past, but with “Nothin’ Better to Do”? I regret bringing up AC a few days ago, as I’m more and more thinking that it doesn’t reflect a song being “pop”.

    And here I am saying I’d shut up.

  105. Jon
    February 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    I tend to agree, but in this context it doesn’t matter, because Urban’s not gotten a lot of AC airplay either. When it comes to radio, he’s clearly a country artist. When Stormy said he gets played a lot on pop radio, she was just plain wrong.

  106. Marie
    February 20, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    “You mean you do not faithfully read the critics and base your opinion upon what they say?……………..”

    When it comes to music, I am my only critic and I have been since I was 7 years old. Like I said before, I KNOW what I like. There is no need for me to listen to critics. What for? Critics have their own tastes, preferences and, of course, biases and so do I. I love to listen to music and purchase them all the time. If artists put out music that I like, I will buy them. And if the record really impresses me, I will buy several copies and distribute them to my co-workers, friends, and family members. I am the type of person the record industry is looking for who will spend whatever it takes for music entertainment. Furthermore, I am a concertgoer and spend considerable amount in that category. Obviously, Keith Urban knows what I like because he produces music that appeals to me. If other artists follow suit, I guarantee you I will be there with my pockets.

  107. janet
    February 21, 2011 at 9:01 am

    While “Without You” isn’t a favorite of mine, but that is only one song out of many that happen to be great music by Keith Urban. I have music CD’s but none of them do for me what Keith Urban’s music does. So I listen to Keith every chance I can get. His music makes me feel happy every time I listen to it. And I never get tired of listening to him. Happy or sad, he’s got it all and I really don’t care what the critics think. I listen to what I like. And Keith is a great guy to top it off. That just makes it even better. Can’t wait to see him in concert this summer.

  108. diana duran
    March 13, 2011 at 4:31 am


  109. Terence
    March 14, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    This song was relapsed back on his 91 debut album!

  110. Terence
    March 14, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    Released. Lol

  111. Matt B
    March 15, 2011 at 12:14 am

    not possible Terence. It wasn’t even written then.

  112. Terence
    March 15, 2011 at 10:33 pm
  113. Rizzo
    March 18, 2011 at 12:25 am

    Terence…did you bother looking at your OWN link? Here’s the link to your “same song”:

  114. Rebecca
    March 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Love Love Love this song….I guess it’s just a time in my life that it fits so well–beautiful song!

  115. Kyle
    March 29, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    I have to say, I didn’t think much of it at frist, but this song has really grown on me.

    It’s nothing special lyrically, but it’s just beautiful melodically – the lift before the choruses especially so. Add in the stripped down arrangement and a great, emotive vocal from Urban, and I find it really pleasant to listen to.

    I like it.

    May 22, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    We later added Thomas Walker as a song writer after realizing he contributed a few lyrics. Thanks!


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