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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All right! Jon has a new verbal sparring partner in Kyle (ie Triggerman) from Saving Country Music! It might not be quite the same as the old Jim Malec feud days at The 9513, but it looks like it has real potential! Go for it guys! (lol)

Aaron Tippin was a bit like Samuel Clemens when he pronounced &quot;the news of my death has been greatly exaggerated!&quot; (lol) Glad to hear that Aaron is okay.

Yet more good reviews of the new Sara Watkins album eh? My interest is growing a smidge with each such mention.

To me Kickstarter is a lot like PBS/NPR! I let other people send in money and then enjoy the end results!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All right! Jon has a new verbal sparring partner in Kyle (ie Triggerman) from Saving Country Music! It might not be quite the same as the old Jim Malec feud days at The 9513, but it looks like it has real potential! Go for it guys! (lol)</p>
<p>Aaron Tippin was a bit like Samuel Clemens when he pronounced &#8220;the news of my death has been greatly exaggerated!&#8221; (lol) Glad to hear that Aaron is okay.</p>
<p>Yet more good reviews of the new Sara Watkins album eh? My interest is growing a smidge with each such mention.</p>
<p>To me Kickstarter is a lot like PBS/NPR! I let other people send in money and then enjoy the end results!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 12:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;My handle on here is no more anonymous than yours, and if you click on it, it will take you to my website where you can click on the “About” button and find out that my name is Kyle Coroneos...&lt;/i&gt;

Not using Chrome on a MacBook, you can&#039;t.  There&#039;s a lot of foofaraw on that &quot;About&quot; page - which I looked at before making my comment - but the only proper names on there then and now are Shelton Hank Williams, Eric Church and Taylor Swift.  

And it&#039;s kind of funny to see you taking issue with being called a self-appointed expert when, right on your own website, you call yourself a &quot;self-proclaimed culture warrior.&quot;  Is there supposed to be some big difference between those two?

&lt;i&gt;And I don’t think making the obvious observance that a Kickstarter with a lower amount has a greater chance of success is self appointing myself an expert, I think it is me being a master of the obvious.&lt;/i&gt;

Um, the word you were looking for but didn&#039;t find is &quot;observation&quot;; &quot;observance&quot; means something else.  And your initial post didn&#039;t say squat about chances of success, it was a bunch of hooey what Kickstarter &quot;is for,&quot; about a purported sense of &quot;entitlement&quot; on the part of Ms. Harrington, and how she&#039;s asking for &quot;too much&quot; money.  

And neither posting a bunch of mealy-mouthed and dishonest - really, dude, do you think the readers of your later post lack the capacity to scroll back up the page and see for themselves what you actually said? - walking back, nor
adding links to more uninformed blather about &quot;the spirit of Kickstarter&quot; - really, dude, are you one of Kickstarter&#039;s founders? - does anything to improve matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My handle on here is no more anonymous than yours, and if you click on it, it will take you to my website where you can click on the “About” button and find out that my name is Kyle Coroneos&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Not using Chrome on a MacBook, you can&#8217;t.  There&#8217;s a lot of foofaraw on that &#8220;About&#8221; page &#8211; which I looked at before making my comment &#8211; but the only proper names on there then and now are Shelton Hank Williams, Eric Church and Taylor Swift.  </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s kind of funny to see you taking issue with being called a self-appointed expert when, right on your own website, you call yourself a &#8220;self-proclaimed culture warrior.&#8221;  Is there supposed to be some big difference between those two?</p>
<p><i>And I don’t think making the obvious observance that a Kickstarter with a lower amount has a greater chance of success is self appointing myself an expert, I think it is me being a master of the obvious.</i></p>
<p>Um, the word you were looking for but didn&#8217;t find is &#8220;observation&#8221;; &#8220;observance&#8221; means something else.  And your initial post didn&#8217;t say squat about chances of success, it was a bunch of hooey what Kickstarter &#8220;is for,&#8221; about a purported sense of &#8220;entitlement&#8221; on the part of Ms. Harrington, and how she&#8217;s asking for &#8220;too much&#8221; money.  </p>
<p>And neither posting a bunch of mealy-mouthed and dishonest &#8211; really, dude, do you think the readers of your later post lack the capacity to scroll back up the page and see for themselves what you actually said? &#8211; walking back, nor<br />
adding links to more uninformed blather about &#8220;the spirit of Kickstarter&#8221; &#8211; really, dude, are you one of Kickstarter&#8217;s founders? &#8211; does anything to improve matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Saving Country Music</title>
		<link>http://www.engine145.com/carter-family-documentary-needs-kickstarting-rebas-sitcom-pilot-picked-up-by-abc-new-music-videos/#comment-29123</link>
		<dc:creator>Saving Country Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 06:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading back over my initial comment, I do think I came across too harsh on my take of The Carter Family Kickstarter. However, though I may not have as much knowledge about the project or Beth Harrington as some, I am familiar with her work and have been following the developments of this Carter Family project for some time. Honestly, my comment was not really a reaction to Beth or this project, but a $50,000 Kickstarter for a phase of a documentary. 

How did documentaries get made before Kickstarter? How do documentaries that do not use Kickstarter get funded? Who or what decides why one project is worthy of up-front funding, mitigating the financial risk for the filmmaker, while other filmmakers and their investors/associates must bear the complete financial risk themselves? 

I mentioned the recent Louvin documentary &quot;Still Rattlin; The Devil&#039;s Cage&quot; that was Kickstarted with $3,000. The filmmakers eventually racked up tons of debt, spending personal money to make the film happen. And this was a serious, feature documentary premiered at the Nashville Film Festival, and was formatted to fit the PBS market for American Experience or another show. They also had to navigate music rights. I completely understand, it&#039;s two different projects with specific needs, but the point is the advent of Kickstarter has raised some dilemmas that I think we must be open about. 

I want this Carter Family Kickstarter to be funded and Beth Harrington to be compensated for her work. I did not say she felt entitled, I said that is the impression I believe the large sum being asked for will have on some people. Their eyes will widen and they&#039;ll say &quot;good luck&quot;, as opposed to navigating to the pledge button, as they may be more inclined to do with a smaller sum. 

I hope I&#039;m wrong, and I hope the best for this documentary and Beth Harrington. 

And here&#039;s some more articles elucidating the Kickstarter views from this &quot;self-appointed expert&quot;

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/the-kickstarter-dilemma-parody-ethics

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/local-band-launches-kickstarter-campaign-for-new-album]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading back over my initial comment, I do think I came across too harsh on my take of The Carter Family Kickstarter. However, though I may not have as much knowledge about the project or Beth Harrington as some, I am familiar with her work and have been following the developments of this Carter Family project for some time. Honestly, my comment was not really a reaction to Beth or this project, but a $50,000 Kickstarter for a phase of a documentary. </p>
<p>How did documentaries get made before Kickstarter? How do documentaries that do not use Kickstarter get funded? Who or what decides why one project is worthy of up-front funding, mitigating the financial risk for the filmmaker, while other filmmakers and their investors/associates must bear the complete financial risk themselves? </p>
<p>I mentioned the recent Louvin documentary &#8220;Still Rattlin; The Devil&#8217;s Cage&#8221; that was Kickstarted with $3,000. The filmmakers eventually racked up tons of debt, spending personal money to make the film happen. And this was a serious, feature documentary premiered at the Nashville Film Festival, and was formatted to fit the PBS market for American Experience or another show. They also had to navigate music rights. I completely understand, it&#8217;s two different projects with specific needs, but the point is the advent of Kickstarter has raised some dilemmas that I think we must be open about. </p>
<p>I want this Carter Family Kickstarter to be funded and Beth Harrington to be compensated for her work. I did not say she felt entitled, I said that is the impression I believe the large sum being asked for will have on some people. Their eyes will widen and they&#8217;ll say &#8220;good luck&#8221;, as opposed to navigating to the pledge button, as they may be more inclined to do with a smaller sum. </p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m wrong, and I hope the best for this documentary and Beth Harrington. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s some more articles elucidating the Kickstarter views from this &#8220;self-appointed expert&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/the-kickstarter-dilemma-parody-ethics" rel="nofollow">http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/the-kickstarter-dilemma-parody-ethics</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/local-band-launches-kickstarter-campaign-for-new-album" rel="nofollow">http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/local-band-launches-kickstarter-campaign-for-new-album</a></p>
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		<title>By: Saving Country Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saving Country Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 05:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon,

Calling me an &quot;anonymous internet self-appointed expert&quot; is no more fair than me calling you a comment section troll. My handle on here is no more anonymous than yours, and if you click on it, it will take you to my website where you can click on the &quot;About&quot; button and find out that my name is Kyle Coroneos and you can Google away from there. 

And I don&#039;t think making the obvious observance that a Kickstarter with a lower amount has a greater chance of success is self appointing myself an expert, I think it is me being a master of the obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Calling me an &#8220;anonymous internet self-appointed expert&#8221; is no more fair than me calling you a comment section troll. My handle on here is no more anonymous than yours, and if you click on it, it will take you to my website where you can click on the &#8220;About&#8221; button and find out that my name is Kyle Coroneos and you can Google away from there. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think making the obvious observance that a Kickstarter with a lower amount has a greater chance of success is self appointing myself an expert, I think it is me being a master of the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Flaherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flaherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 23:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is definitely a sense of entitlement related to this project. And that is The Carter Family story is entitled to and deserves to be crafted into an &quot;American Experience&quot; level of storytelling.  As a Grammy and Emmy nominated filmmaker and historian, Beth is the professional to do this, she just does great work. It&#039;s tough work and a labor of love involving costs (music rights anyone?) beyond those found in other non-music docs. To suggest from afar that the filmmaker has a sense of &quot;entitlement&quot; (after 8+ years) and a lack of resourcefulness demonstrates a lack of information regarding this project.(perhaps there is some confusion between post and preproduction and what constitutes phase 1 and phase 2)

Check out this video of the Johnny Cash interview (one, if not the last)

http://thewindingstream.com/video/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is definitely a sense of entitlement related to this project. And that is The Carter Family story is entitled to and deserves to be crafted into an &#8220;American Experience&#8221; level of storytelling.  As a Grammy and Emmy nominated filmmaker and historian, Beth is the professional to do this, she just does great work. It&#8217;s tough work and a labor of love involving costs (music rights anyone?) beyond those found in other non-music docs. To suggest from afar that the filmmaker has a sense of &#8220;entitlement&#8221; (after 8+ years) and a lack of resourcefulness demonstrates a lack of information regarding this project.(perhaps there is some confusion between post and preproduction and what constitutes phase 1 and phase 2)</p>
<p>Check out this video of the Johnny Cash interview (one, if not the last)</p>
<p><a href="http://thewindingstream.com/video/" rel="nofollow">http://thewindingstream.com/video/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Mazor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Mazor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 19:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just awfully difficult to get completion money for any music documentary these days. There are many hanging out there forever trying to get done...   Beth Harrington is very good at this work; if you&#039;ve seen her Rockabilly Women film you&#039;ll likely agree, and she&#039;s been at this Carter Family project for years.  Whatever it takes is the way to go now.

 I hope her project will be supported.  It&#039;s tough all over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just awfully difficult to get completion money for any music documentary these days. There are many hanging out there forever trying to get done&#8230;   Beth Harrington is very good at this work; if you&#8217;ve seen her Rockabilly Women film you&#8217;ll likely agree, and she&#8217;s been at this Carter Family project for years.  Whatever it takes is the way to go now.</p>
<p> I hope her project will be supported.  It&#8217;s tough all over.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone knows this is the proper use of Kickstarter: http://xkcd.com/1055/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows this is the proper use of Kickstarter: <a href="http://xkcd.com/1055/" rel="nofollow">http://xkcd.com/1055/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, great, another anonymous internet self-appointed expert - this time on film production and budgeting, fundraising for creative projects, and what &quot;the idea&quot; of Kickstarter is.  

Anyone who&#039;s interested in reading something a little more informed and informative about it can do so here: http://meowonline.org/2012/05/08/beth-harrington-needs-cash-for-carters/ .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, great, another anonymous internet self-appointed expert &#8211; this time on film production and budgeting, fundraising for creative projects, and what &#8220;the idea&#8221; of Kickstarter is.  </p>
<p>Anyone who&#8217;s interested in reading something a little more informed and informative about it can do so here: <a href="http://meowonline.org/2012/05/08/beth-harrington-needs-cash-for-carters/" rel="nofollow">http://meowonline.org/2012/05/08/beth-harrington-needs-cash-for-carters/</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: Saving Country Music</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saving Country Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Carter Family documentary is asking for way too much money through their Kickstarter, especially since this is just for the post-production phase. It smacks of entitlement, as opposed to resourcefulness. The recent Louvin documentary started their Kickstarter at $3,000 to fund the whole movie. The idea is to &quot;Kick Start&quot; the project, not fund it stem to stern. I hope it gets funded, and the documentary should be made. But the makers need to be a little more wise of how to use the Kickstarter resource. Even if it does get funded, it is still too much money to ask for 1 phase of 1 documentary, regardless of the scope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Carter Family documentary is asking for way too much money through their Kickstarter, especially since this is just for the post-production phase. It smacks of entitlement, as opposed to resourcefulness. The recent Louvin documentary started their Kickstarter at $3,000 to fund the whole movie. The idea is to &#8220;Kick Start&#8221; the project, not fund it stem to stern. I hope it gets funded, and the documentary should be made. But the makers need to be a little more wise of how to use the Kickstarter resource. Even if it does get funded, it is still too much money to ask for 1 phase of 1 documentary, regardless of the scope.</p>
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		<title>By: luckyoldsun</title>
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		<dc:creator>luckyoldsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 14:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Justin Moore’s tour crew was also involved in an accident: a vehicle crashed into their tour bus, killing the other driver.&quot;

Maybe it doesn&#039;t make all that much difference, but the news reports state that the accident with Justin Moore&#039;s tour bus did not, actually, kill the other driver. Seems the guy was perfectly fine after the accident with the tour bus--He got out of his own car to inspect the damage and was then rammed into and killed by another vehicle.

That&#039;s a rather typical chain of events that people need to be aware of when they&#039;re in an accident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Justin Moore’s tour crew was also involved in an accident: a vehicle crashed into their tour bus, killing the other driver.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it doesn&#8217;t make all that much difference, but the news reports state that the accident with Justin Moore&#8217;s tour bus did not, actually, kill the other driver. Seems the guy was perfectly fine after the accident with the tour bus&#8211;He got out of his own car to inspect the damage and was then rammed into and killed by another vehicle.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a rather typical chain of events that people need to be aware of when they&#8217;re in an accident.</p>
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