Carrie Underwood – “Undo It”

Juli Thanki | March 17th, 2010

carrie-underwood-undo-itSongwriters: Carrie Underwood, Kara DioGuardi, Martin Frederiksen and Luke Laird.

With “Temporary Home,” Carrie Underwood proved herself to be a pretty good songwriter. Of course, that doesn’t mean everything that comes out of her pen is a gem. For every “Golden Ring,” there’s an “I Wanna Talk About Me.” “Undo It,” the weakest song from Play On is definitely closer to the latter.

The song begins quite nicely, with Underwood backed by guitar and fiddle as she begins her tale of woe, singing “I should’ve known by the way you passed me by/There was something in your eyes and it wasn’t right.” Once the chorus comes around, however, the song quickly derails, transforming into a third-rate tune from Kelly Clarkson’s reject pile thanks in part to a bombastic, overly loud arrangement that nearly drowns out the vocals.

She tries her damndest to sell deeply stupid lyrics “You stole my happy, you made me cry/Took the lonely and took me for a ride;” unfortunately, there isn’t a singer alive who can polish that turd. Seriously, “you stole my happy?” Why is she singing in LOLcat? Did the woman in this song get dumped in favor of someone who knows the difference between adjectives and nouns? The lyric “I wanna uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-undo it” is the icing on the inanity cake, but it’s Carrie Underwood: everything she touches turns to platinum. This song’s quality—or lack of it—won’t slow its success at all.

Although the lyrics aren’t anything special, Underwood’s delivery of them is. She sounds as though she’s barely restraining her anger, both at the man who’s treated her bad and at herself for allowing somebody to treat her that way. Underwood is an incredibly talented singer, able to convey both the emotion required on serious songs such as “Mama’s Song” and the double barreled sassiness required for songs like “Before He Cheats.” She’s proven that she can do so much better than this as a songwriter. Undo it? Yes, please.

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  1. Leeann Ward
    March 17, 2010 at 6:52 am

    Fine. “I Wanna Talk About Me” is a guilty pleasure.:) I’ll admit that I have not found anyone whose musical opinion that I respect to agree with me though.

  2. Mary-Ann
    March 17, 2010 at 6:59 am

    Nope. I wouldn’t “undo” anything about this song. Yeah, it’s not the nicest of the bunch but it has it’s own charm. Carrie shouldn’t be the only one to take blame on the ‘stupid lyrics’. If you want to talk about stupid lyrics, why not Ke$ha’s “Blah! Blah! Blah!” or “Tick Tok”. “LOLcat” singing as you called it, is a form of writing. All songs can’t have grammatically correct lyrics or they(singers) might as well sing a novel, newspaper or whatever.

    The song catchy and fun to sing to, that was the point. I’m in love with this song. It’s like a new anthem for women! Carrie’s done it again! Bravo!

  3. Leeann Ward
    March 17, 2010 at 7:21 am

    Since Carrie is not only a co-writer of the song and the one who still chose to record it, I think she’s actually the one who has to take the fall for the bad lyrics the most. Conversely, if the lyrics were great, she’d be the one who’d get the most credit for them, since she’s the “face” of the song as the one who’ll be automatically associated with it.

  4. reza
    March 17, 2010 at 7:34 am

    i think it’s a nice song and unique

  5. Joey
    March 17, 2010 at 7:42 am

    I love this song. Those who hate it, can suck it. I agree with Mary-Ann. I think the song has done what it’s supposed to do. Carrie’s vocals are incomparable.

  6. Stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 7:49 am

    I know when I am looking for a good country song I turn to Ke$ha.

  7. Razor X
    March 17, 2010 at 7:56 am

    Now you’ve done it, Juli. There will be about 500 comments to this thread by the end of the day.

  8. Noeller
    March 17, 2010 at 8:03 am

    holy sweet mother of pearl – how on EARTH is this gonna get played on Country radio??? Even as wide-open-Pop as CR has become, I don’t know that they’re ready for this. Honestly, it’s even farther away than “Before He Cheats” and that level of tripe.

    This song is pure garbage – couldn’t even get through the preview listen. Ugh.

  9. Alex
    March 17, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Alert….to all level headed people out there who can form a clear thought and read through the obvious Carrie hating banter….this chick is not a Carrie fan, can not even come up with “One” comment that we haven’t all heard before from the left-wing (that’s funny) haters. Probably secretly has a sick kinda crush on TS and is totally *issed that Carrie can take any song and sing the ever living crap out of it. “Undo it” is a totally fun song, a song that you can sing along with, have fun with, dance to and ranks right up there with some of my Best of Carrie. This is an unfortunate excuse for a person, probably tried out for Idol and was rejected and has been on a mission of hate ever since. So, for all you true Carrie fans pay no attention to the ridiculous and completely insane review or whatever this is suppose to be. More shocking (which, at this juncture of the game we’ve heard it all)than this article is that I am wasting my time commenting on it!

  10. polina
    March 17, 2010 at 8:12 am

    Amen brother!! You’ve said it well. Carrie is and will always be one of the most gifted vocalist ever to grace this music industry.

  11. Bo Seefish
    March 17, 2010 at 8:36 am

    You folks eat all this crap from your deities, and then lash out at people who don’t worship at the same alter. Every singer can throw out a bad song; not liking it isn’t heresy (or in any way support of some other unrelated artist). Use your heads, people!

  12. Jenn in OK
    March 17, 2010 at 8:45 am

    I agree with the main points of this review despite really liking the song, and thought it was quite funny! To me, “Undo It” is a fun, catchy, inane pop song that would probably do very well and be right at home on popular radio with Ke$ha, Kelly Clarkson, Taylor Swift, and everyone else those top 40 mix stations play. If you can get past the “hating,” as some perceive it to be, the reviewer does make some very valid points, while also acknowledging the talent Carrie does have. She is far from a hater. When it comes to these kinds of songs, the caliber of writing is not always up to par and “Undo It” is one of them. What’s so wrong with admitting that? I happen to like it even though it has faults; The reviewer doesn’t. To each his or her own. It’s not that serious.

    I also think it’s very interesting that out of all the songs on the album they could have chosen for the next single, they picked this one which is arguably the most pop/least country and one of the weakest lyrically. If they wanted fun/catchy/upbeat, why not “Songs Like This,” or “This Time”? Or hell, even “Quitter.”

  13. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 8:55 am

    Why did Ke$ha parents spell her name with a dollar sign?

  14. waynoe
    March 17, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Oh, I see another subtle diss on Toby Keith. “For every “Golden Ring,” there’s an “I Wanna Talk About Me.” “Undo It,” the weakest song from Play On is definitely closer to the latter.”

    Alex – Wow! I am impressed!

    Yet another example of the bench-warming water boy making fun of a player who is good enough to be on the court.

  15. Paul W Dennis
    March 17, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Good performance – really mediocre song – of course Carrie’s idiot fans will love it regardless of its quality (the word fan derived from ‘fanatic’)

  16. Jully
    March 17, 2010 at 9:00 am

    This song is stupid.

  17. Dom
    March 17, 2010 at 9:04 am

    This song is amazing. Just because one person makes a song tht isnt great, doesnt mean u should jump all over them. “Blah Blah Blah” is one of the dumbest songs I ever heard. Carrie songs are way better and there is a meaning to all of them.

  18. grumpiestoldman
    March 17, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Anything tainted by Kara DioGuardi involvement in any way is bound to smell like a turd.

  19. Robin
    March 17, 2010 at 9:22 am

    “Honky Tonk BaDonkADonk” is stupid too, but I like it too. Not every song has to be serious. I like country because it “primarily” makes sense. But, if it were all that, it’d be a depressing place to live. “That’s How Country Boy’s Roll” and “Let’s Just Dance” don’t have much to say either. Although, I do like the first and not the latter.

    Not every song has to be deep and wordsy. I like to “kick it” a little too.

  20. kevin w
    March 17, 2010 at 9:33 am

    “Now you’ve done it, Juli. There will be about 500 comments to this thread by the end of the day.”

    Most of them by you

  21. Joanne
    March 17, 2010 at 9:36 am

    I love this song! I don’t care what anybody else says. Yeah, it has it’s faults, but I still love it anyways. It’s so catchy and fun to sing along. Love Carrie’s vocals in it too!!

  22. Chris Godfrey
    March 17, 2010 at 9:58 am

    I love the song though I will admit that as a vocalist, I critique songs on vocals first. As far as songwriting goes, it’s songs like this that people eat up, so it’s actually kinda genius. Beyonce’s uh uh oh oh oh oh, Blake’s Hillbilly bone a bone bone bone bone, and BEP’s Boom boom boom, or I’ma I’ma I’ma Be. Lyrics of repetition seem to be climbiing to the top of the charts. Thanks though for agreeing with her amazing vocal abiblity. I would rather listen to her sing Ole McDonald had a farm anyday than have to subject myself to people who can’t stay on pitch for more than two words when they sing life and I’m talking about a whole lot more than just Taylor Swift. I give her props for songwriting. If Taylor would stick to writing and give all her songs to Carrie, they would own the grammy’s.

  23. Chris Godfrey
    March 17, 2010 at 10:01 am

    Oh, are we 100% sure this is the next single? I know it probably will be, but Temporary home is still climbing charts. Until I see it on carrieunderwoodofficial.com, I’m not completly convinced. Before the album came out, it was all over the internet that a song called, “Oklahoma Wind” was going to be the first single and then, it did not even make the album cut.

  24. Dr. No
    March 17, 2010 at 10:15 am

    And Nashville wonders why sales are down.

  25. nm
    March 17, 2010 at 10:41 am

    I dunno, Juli. I mean, I sure don’t love “I Wanna Talk About Me,” but in a lot of ways it’s an absolutely brilliant song. As the self-portrait of a certain kind of jerky guy (the kind Keith went on to embody so well in his own songwriting and persona) it’s every bit as on-target as “Golden Ring” is as a picture of poverty and failed love.

    As to this new song of Underwood’s, I can’t comment. But I wouldn’t point to “I Wanna …” as an example of Bobby Braddock writing a weak song. It’s not weak; it’s just obnoxious.

  26. Tara Seetharam
    March 17, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Was there confirmation that this is the next single?

  27. Evie
    March 17, 2010 at 10:49 am

    I can barely stand any of the people on this site who do reviews. They all turn my stomach. I’m so glad Carrie does so well. It just makes them look all the more ridiculous. Carrie is probably the most talented artist country music has, and they can barely find one thing about her they like. You remind me of the kids in high school who hate the cheerleaders and sports stars because you could never compete with them.

  28. Jon
    March 17, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Was there confirmation that this is the next single?

    None that I heard of. Last I checked, Temporary Home is still racing up the charts…Jumping the gun?

  29. Tara Seetharam
    March 17, 2010 at 11:08 am

    Damn Arista. This over “Songs Like This”? Really?

  30. March
    March 17, 2010 at 11:11 am

    I’m a major Carrie fan but to be honest UNDO IT is the only song on her Play On CD that I skip through. Just think it isn’t a great song but she sings it beautifully.

  31. Chris Godfrey
    March 17, 2010 at 11:53 am

    I think “Undo it” is a better song than “Cowboy Cassanova”. I would prefer “Quitter” as the next single because it is something completly different from her. A positive example of love. I’m sure they have people paying attention to audience reactions to the songs at the concerts. I believe that will play a big part in picking the next single. If “Undo it” is proucing great crowd reactions, then I say by all means, release it. This is a business and she is excelling at it.

  32. Rick
    March 17, 2010 at 11:54 am

    Wow, Carrie’s legions of crazed fanbots are one spooky bunch! Yikes!

  33. GalPal
    March 17, 2010 at 11:57 am

    9513 isn’t really a big fan of Carrie but is of Taylor. This is a fun, rocking song to sing along with. Carrie’s vocals are tremendous and she does a great job of showing her emotions on it. Let’s just not jump the gun and assume this will be the next single. Keep up the good work Carrie-you have the voice of an angel!

  34. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 11:59 am

    If you think the reviewers of this site are fans of Taylor Swift, you obviously haven’t read any of the reviews of her materials.

  35. Nicolas
    March 17, 2010 at 12:18 pm

    I wouldn’t have released this song as a single…. I don’t hate it, but there’s a lot better. My favorite is Change, I’d like to see that get released as a single. =)

  36. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    I wish I could undo listening to this song. Give me Miss Leslie or Amber Digby over Carrie.

  37. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Just a question how can anyone hear Carrie’s vocals which are buried under layers of the drum loops etc.

  38. Trent
    March 17, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    @GALPAL and Steve M.:

    Actually, I just did some research on this. The 9513 has reviewed 8 Taylor Swift singles. 5 received thumbs up while 3 received thumbs down. This website is kind of notorious for giving thumbs down to everything (see “Cryin’ For Me), so I was very surprised. So GALPAL appears to be correct.

  39. Michelle
    March 17, 2010 at 12:39 pm

    Yawn! Where’s Trish, aka Tom, aka Dick, aka Harry, aka Jack, aka Jill?LOL

  40. Nicolas
    March 17, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Is this actually being released as the third single? Like several commentors above, I didn’t find anything… and Temporary Home is not done yet.

  41. sam (sam)
    March 17, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    I don’t agree with Trent that this “website is kind of notorios for giving thumbs down to everything” (though I agree “Cryin For Me” is a thumbs up, although, to be fair, it took a while to grow on me). However, my impression is that the reviews tend to be quite harsh toward Carrie Underwood, and in my view many of the Carrie songs they give a thumbs down to are more enjoyable than other songs they give a thumbs up to. I can’t prove it but I do at times think the site holds Underwood to a different standard.

    I enjoy most of Carrie’s songs, even though the 9513 gives many of them a thumbs down. I suppose my tastes are slightly different than those of the reviewers.

  42. bella
    March 17, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    i actually like this song…it’s catchy, angry, and i like it!!…just because you dont like it doesnt mean we all agree…for instance i think your article on carrie is lame and stupid..and i give you “two thumbs down”

  43. Dan E
    March 17, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    I love this song! I didn’t know a third single was already picked out. But, this was a very good candidate for becoming one. It’s very catchy, they lyrics are wonderful, and she has a lot of fun with this. This is definitely a summer song. It’s also one of her shortest songs, but she empowers every second of it. This could end up being one of her best singles to date.
    Temporary Home is still steadily moving up the charts, so I’m guessing this song will burst out a lot more once Temporary Home hits number 1. Undo It is already getting some radio play though so I have no doubt this song will be another success story for Carrie.

  44. Michelle
    March 17, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    i actually like undo it… it’s one of my faves off her new album. i guess i don’t over analyze songs like you people lol

  45. sam (sam)
    March 17, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    Michelle – What is the right level of analysis. I wouldn’t want to over analyze but neither would I want to under-analyze.

  46. Stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Its facinating how Carrie Underwood fans make it a Taylor or Carrie battle. Almost like those are the only two “country” singers they know.

  47. sevenyearache
    March 17, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Yes, this song is stupid. But like Paul said, Carrie’s rabid fans will eat it up like they’ve been handed a fresh ear of corn on the cob. I just wish they’d use napkins.

  48. Chris N.
    March 17, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    Young female fans seem to always want to pit one female singer (or actress, or whatever) against another. I do not understand women.

  49. Michelle
    March 17, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    There’s more than one Michelle, now? Oh, great!!

  50. TexasVet
    March 17, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    (Rick) Wow, Carrie’s legions of crazed fanbots are one spooky bunch! Yikes!

    Not as spooky as a crazed obamavoter bashing right wing zealot…lol!

    As for the review…(YAWN) Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  51. ?
    March 17, 2010 at 3:47 pm

    Wait, when was this announced as a single? I don’t think it has. Temporary Home is still climbing the charts.

  52. M.C.
    March 17, 2010 at 4:06 pm

    I wonder if Juli has ever heard Bobby Braddock sing the song he wrote, “I Wanna Talk About Me”–since her attack is on the song itself and not Toby Keith’s version of it. Surely so, since she compares it to another song Braddock co-wrote “Golden Ring.” That can’t be a coincidence, can it?
    I’ve always enjoyed Braddock’s sly, tongue-in-cheek take on his composition more than Toby’s.

  53. Laura
    March 17, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    First, there has been no official announcement by Carrie’s team that this is the 3rd single yet, so isn’t this review a bit too early? Her Temporary Home song is still climbing the charts, and her team hasn’t announced a new single yet as they wouldn’t want to sabotage the chart run of Temporary Home, especially since it is at number 3 right now.

    Undo It is a fun, upbeat, sassy song and I love it. Sure, the lyrics could be better, but they are no worse then the bubble gum tween disney crap that Taylor swift is glorified for.

    I am convinced this site just despises Carrie Underwood personally, and nothing she can do will ever be respected here.

  54. Laura
    March 17, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Texasvet: Carrie’s fans are no crazier then the Hatingbots that live to trash her on this site. It has become more then just a fun hobby for her haters here to mock her: It has become an obssessed lifestyle choice. Scary stuff.

  55. Franny
    March 17, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Why does the 9513 love the word “bombast” so much? Personally, I found the review bombastic.

  56. TexasVet
    March 17, 2010 at 4:49 pm
  57. sam (sam)
    March 17, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Unlike Laura, I don’t thing “this site just despised Carrie Underwood personally, and nothing she can do will ever be respected here.” I don’t see any reason to believe that “the site” has anything personal against Carrie, I think they just generally dislike her music or perhaps hold her to a higher standard (maybe because she is popular. Perhaps she will get more respect from the sight if and when her popularity fades).

    Anyway, some people do comment and post insults like “Carrie fanbot,” et cetera. Interestingly I think many of those sorts of comments are as close minded and often unintelligent and as hard to take seriously as comments from Carrie fans along the lines of “Carrie could Burp ‘Chopsticks’ and I’d love to listen!” True there are some Carrie fans who are mechanical in singing her praises, but there are haters who are mechanical in their hatred.

    As for the review itself, I found it to be high on snark and low on insight.

  58. Franny
    March 17, 2010 at 5:14 pm

    It is very insulting and ignorant to call Carrie’s fans “idiots” just because you hate Carrie. Whatever happened to respecting the opinions of others? Some of you haters are so blinded by your hate that you think anyone that likes Carrie Underwood is an “idiot.” I have a college degree and graduated near the top of my class, so suck on that haters!

  59. Laura
    March 17, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Dear Rick: Carrie’s haters (or should I call you bashingbots) like you are one scary crazed bunch! Yikes! Do you live to bash Carrie, or do you have other hobbies? Just curious. Or maybe I will be afraid I asked. lol

  60. Vance
    March 17, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    I think Undo It is a piece of trash and I like Carrie. This is the worst possible choice after the mundane and juvenile Quitter. The lyrics suck and the poppy chorus makes my ears bleed. I hope that it isn’t a single as there has been no official confirmation yet.

  61. Laura
    March 17, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    oops: my comments were directed at Rick, not TexasVet. Sorry TexasVet! That was a typo.

  62. Andy
    March 17, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    It’s not even the official single. Why are you all reviewing it?

  63. Sam G.
    March 17, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Having Carrie Underwood sing this song is like having Martin Scorsese direct commercials for the Snuggie.

    As for comparing one singer against the other, it’s an American Idol thing. Once you vote for someone eleventy million times on a talent show, every other singer out there becomes the enemy and inferior to your favorite.

    And the number of comments mentioning Taylor Swift in a review of a Carrie Underwood song: five, so far.

  64. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 5:46 pm

    How is the review bashing Carrie? They just stated an opinion on the song.

  65. Tyler
    March 17, 2010 at 5:56 pm

    This isn’t confirmed to be the 3rd single.

  66. Rick
    March 17, 2010 at 6:03 pm

    Shame on you Laura for confusing me with my Carrie Underwood loving pal NorthTexasVet! Northy and I are worlds apart on our appreciation of Carrie’s music, but other than that he seems to have pretty good taste in country music! (lol)

  67. Vicki
    March 17, 2010 at 6:08 pm

    When Carrie get a thumbs up on any song on “Play On”? I think yes..but only on: Someday When I Stop Loving You

    But music being my life…I love the girl who can definitely sing!

  68. Dan E
    March 17, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    Even though there has been no true confirmation, it’s been heard on the radio a bit and Temporary Home will likely reach number 1 within the next 2 to 4 weeks. I think a lot of Carrie’s songs could be potential number 1 hits. Undo It is no exception. Carrie has a strong fan base that loves her music and her voice. She is great at being serious and inspirational and at the same time knows when to have a fun time. Undo It is a fun and sassy song. She sounds great with it, and could it possibly be a second cross-over for her? Maybe!

    Also, I can’t wait to see how she does with acting on the big screen. The plot for “Soul Surfer” seems like it could be right down Carrie’s alley.

  69. Troy
    March 17, 2010 at 6:42 pm

    I like the I wanna uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-undo it sounds like Under my umbrella Ella ella, eh eh eh, eh eh eh. Not a fan of the chorus though.

  70. stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Chris: Yes, but they always pit these two specific women against each other. I would mind a comparison if they gave her some competition.

  71. Rick
    March 17, 2010 at 7:36 pm

    As far as Idol alumini go, I just wish Katherine McPhee would have “gone country” as well! That gal just has “something goin’ on” on so many levels. Maybe she can countrify her version of Melanie’s “Brand New Key”! (lol)

  72. Kim
    March 17, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought lolcats at the “you stole my happy” line. What were they thinking?

  73. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Katherine McPhee was pretty hot on last week’s “Community.” i never knew she was a singer until I read the write-up on the AV Club.

  74. liveasong
    March 17, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    What kind of review is this? ” Did the woman in this song get dumped in favor of someone who knows the difference between adjectives and nouns? ” The real question should be: ” Did the woman who wrote this review knows that this is a writing style? ” Probably not.

  75. Hoangalicious
    March 17, 2010 at 8:56 pm

    Heres the thing

    As i remember, the last time someone from this site reviewed Temporary Home, that person called it a “BAD SONG”
    And now, from this site, another person wrote “With “Temporary Home,” Carrie Underwood proved herself to be a pretty good songwriter. Of course, that doesn’t mean everything that comes out of her pen is a gem.”
    Is that some kind of joke? I know there r different people do the job reviewing, but readers will only remember that the song was reviewed by THE 9513.

    But i think i have 2 agree with you on some points.
    This song is lyrically bad.
    But it has catchy hooks n powerful vocal

    Have u heard B4 He cheats?
    Dont u remember that she sang ” Oh and he DONT know”. She didnt sing ” He DOESNT know”. So why is it a problem when she sang “happy” instead of “Happiness”?

    and finally, it is NOT NOT NOT NOT THE 3rd SINGLE!!!!
    I dont know why u “reviewed” it.

  76. Laura
    March 17, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    The funny thing about this site, is that every time Taylor Swift writes cheesy, bubble gum pop corny craptastic lyrics about tween love sagas, (which is every song),this site glorifies her as the next Bob Dylan. But you lambast Carrie Underwood for her songwriting in this song, which is meant to be catchy and light, fun. Hypocrites maybe?

    Sometimes, you want a good, fun, Summer song that doesn’t have to have great meaning. UnDo It is catchy, fun, and upbeat, and it is perfect for the Summer radio. I love it.

  77. Mary-Ann
    March 17, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    That was what I’ve been trying to say, the lyrics for “Undo It” is a form of writing style!! Finally someone who understand this!!

  78. stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Bad is more a KIND of writing than a form of writing.

  79. Meghan
    March 17, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    I’ve come to realize that anything Swift writes gets a thumbs up, no matter how recycled her songs are.. (I dare someone to disagree.) But when Carrie comes up with songs that shows strength, emotion, passion, etc, she receives thumb down. It is BULLSHIT! Obviously the reviewers here have been brainwashed into thinking that the bubblegum candy, POP song written and sung by Taylor “not-so” Swift is ‘Genius’!

    I’m totally wasting my time reading and commenting on this site which obviously doesn’t know a great artist when they hear one. If Taylor “not-so” Swift is who you call “Country” and “the next Bob Dylan”, and if you think that the girl CAN sing, then GOD HELP THE MUSIC INDUSTRY!

  80. Mary-Ann
    March 17, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Stormy, talk to me again when you really KNOW the difference between a form of writing, a bad one and a cheesy one.

  81. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Taylor Swift the next Bob Dylan no way.

  82. stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 9:16 pm

    Okay, I will bite. What “form” of writing is this?

  83. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    Well we know its not haiku.

  84. Michelle
    March 17, 2010 at 9:33 pm

    Haiku? Mmm, makes me hungry for sushi!!!

  85. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Oddly enough, that is my lunch plan for tomorrow.

  86. Janelle
    March 17, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Just when I thought she couldn’t get worse than that craptastic Cowboy Casanova ditty…along comes this one. It’s being played on Sirus’ The Highway quite a bit and I find it very annoying.

  87. stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 9:16 pm Permalink Taylor Swift the next Bob Dylan no way.

    Vocally.

  88. Michelle
    March 17, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Steve M., I’m jealous! Eat some for me!!

  89. Dan E
    March 17, 2010 at 9:46 pm

    Janelle: So I’m guessing you won’t mind when it becomes a number 1 hit, if it indeed is the third single?

  90. Janelle
    March 17, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    Dan – I don’t really care how it does on the charts…I don’t follow those charts that closely or choose what music I listen to on their numbers…I like good music, I just don’t consider these two songs good enough and don’t waste my time listening to them…along with a lot of the so called pop(ular) country music on the radio.

  91. liveasong
    March 17, 2010 at 9:57 pm

    LOL, whatever. If ‘Undo It’ is released as Underwood’s 3rd single, it will be an instant SMASH HIT and will FLY ITS WAY to #1 on the charts. As simple as that! Fans are loving the energy of that song. Check out that video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsHD19Cr2P8&feature=related … And 4 months after its release, the9513 will probably take back their words. :) Thank You.

  92. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Thanks Stormy

  93. Judy
    March 17, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I happen to be crazy about anything this woman sings. She is by far the most gifted, talented young artist of today. She is pure class. She could stand up there with just the Microphone and sing anything from really country to rock and her vocals are always spot on. She has a vocal range that most artists would love to even come close to having.
    I personally love this catchy, upbeat song and I don’t think that Carrie has ever recorded a bad song. She obviously knows how to make #1 singles since her first 11 have gone to #1 and Temporary Home is sitting 3rd right now.
    She is just a gracious, awesome artist, that is too gorgeous for words.
    Judy

  94. ALJID
    March 17, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    Paul W Dennis says:

    “Good performance – really mediocre song – of course Carrie’s idiot fans will love it regardless of its quality (the word fan derived from ‘fanatic’).”

    Please don’t say the word idiot because it’s like saying your taste is better than us and that’s hardly a fact. Your favorite artist may even be as bad as Taylor Swift live. Carrie isn’t. Undo It isn’t a superior material and there is nothing we can do about that.

    As suggested by a few people who had the class and taste not to call Carrie fans like me with the word “idiot” I think the main problem with Carrie is that she can sing and deliver any song no matter how bland or mediocre the material is. And she makes them believable just through her voice alone. The problem is just she’s just singing anything. I, as a fan hope that someday she’ll have the taste of choosing her material which is comparable to Allison Krauss.

    Again, it’s just an opinion..

  95. stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 10:32 pm

    What, exactly, is she supposed to be making me believe here?

  96. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    I have my favorites too. If any of them recorded this song with this arrangement I would be blasting them. I don’t uphold all of their music. Of all the artists I like there are many songs I despise.

  97. steve
    March 17, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    predictable review, at best. why even do it? anyone who reads this site knows it would get a thumbs then. hm, but then i ask myself, so why did i read it? touche.

  98. ALJID
    March 17, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    “What, exactly, is she supposed to be making me believe here?”

    That she wants to “undo it” dude..but of course, appreciating any of Carrie’s songs just devalued my taste. I’m so sorry STORMY..

  99. steve
    March 17, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    *thumbs down

    (I give Carrie a thumbs up for everything she touches, don’t judge)

  100. stormy
    March 17, 2010 at 10:43 pm

    Undo what, exactly? I am sorry, but the 30 minutes of crickets chirping one of my favorite singers recorded tells a more compelling story than this.

  101. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 10:45 pm

    I love the Crickets. Rave on Stormy.

  102. ALJID
    March 17, 2010 at 10:47 pm

    “Undo what, exactly? I am sorry, but the 30 minutes of crickets chirping one of my favorite singers recorded tells a more compelling story than this.”

    Oh, so you can understand what the crickets are singing? Fascinating..Even my six-year old nephew can understand the lyrics. Is that what we get from a person who has a higher taste than us, Carrie fans. A simple song like Undo It is a “gimme” dude.

  103. ALJID
    March 17, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    LOL…I though they were insects. Buwahahahahaha…Anyway the meaning is still a give away. If you don’t understand the message then perhaps you had difficulties understanding Just a Dream?

  104. merlefan49
    March 17, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    Is one of the crickets a brown eyed handsome man :D

  105. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    I don’t know, but the Crickets refuse not to fade away.

  106. TexasVet
    March 17, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    I don’t know, but the Crickets refuse not to fade away.

    These crickets never will:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt02zuoxGj4

  107. Steve M.
    March 17, 2010 at 11:56 pm

    Oh boy! That is some great rock and roll there.

  108. TexasVet
    March 18, 2010 at 12:03 am

    Much better “Undo It” video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymORaEZtvo

    Like it or not, this song will become quite the earworm…listen once and it will stuck in your head the rest of the day.

  109. Steve M.
    March 18, 2010 at 12:05 am

    That reminds me I haven’t seen Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan lately.

  110. CJ
    March 18, 2010 at 3:41 am

    So is Undo It already confirmed as the next single?

    • Jim Malec
      March 18, 2010 at 4:34 am

      I have been lead to believe so, with enough confidence that we published the review. There is, as always, a small possibility that things could change. It’s happened once or twice where we got a little ahead of ourselves. I don’t think that’s the case here.

  111. ALJID
    March 18, 2010 at 4:00 am

    I still don’t know if this is the official third single. I was hoping for Songs Like This..

  112. CJ
    March 18, 2010 at 4:50 am

    Thanks. I like Carrie Underwood, but I do think that there are lyrically stronger songs on the Play On album than Undo It. Like Aljid, I was hoping for Songs Like This as the next single if they want an upbeat one

  113. Steve Harvey
    March 18, 2010 at 6:07 am

    The lyrics are middling, but I kind of like it.

    Great vocal – she’s really stepped it up for this record.

  114. Ty
    March 18, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    The lyrics in this song are no worse than a lot of other songs in country and pop. I like it because it is catchy and will be a blast to dance to and Carrie sings the he– out of it!!!!!

  115. merlefan49
    March 18, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Hey Texasvet and SteveM,

    I heard one of the Crickets married Peggy Sue :D

  116. merlefan49
    March 18, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Even with the “better” video of undo it. It stills is not something I like.

  117. TexasVet
    March 18, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Even with the “better” video of undo it. It stills is not something I like.

    Merle, I was referring to the quality of the video not the song. I would have preferred “Someday when I stop loving you” as her next single but I can see why her label would be hesitant to release two ballads in a row.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s0ykmBI8q8

  118. JCH
    March 18, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    Malodorous fan sensory overload.

  119. Thomas
    March 18, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    …i’d love to say this beauty should only be played inside submerged submarines but i don’t want to be held responsible for the premature extinction of the whales.

    great singer but a butcher, when it comes to writing.

  120. Jeff
    March 18, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    “She tries her damndest to sell deeply stupid lyrics “You stole my happy, you made me cry/Took the lonely and took me for a ride;” unfortunately, there isn’t a singer alive who can polish that turd. Seriously, “you stole my happy?” Why is she singing in LOLcat? Did the woman in this song get dumped in favor of someone who knows the difference between adjectives and nouns?”

    I would not take a review that uses that type of language seriously at all. You did a great job on making your review very juvenile, Juli. There’s a clear difference here between constructive criticism flat out dislike, which you can tell was present here. I for one agree that it is not the best song of Carrie’s, even among her upbeat songs. However, it does grow on you, it’s catchy, and I would put it along with Flat on the Floor and We’re Young and Beautiful as crowd-favorite, concert songs. If this is indeed the third single, which was not confirmed anywhere as Temporary Home is still rising, I would have chosen Songs Like This over Undo It as her third single. Undo It is catchy with its nah-nahs, but Songs Like This is even more catchy while maintaining a country sound and has better lyrics for you perfectionists.

  121. Laura
    March 18, 2010 at 7:25 pm

    Just curious: why does this site even bother to review Carrie Underwood’s music when everyone knows you despise her to her core? Do you get a sick, twisted pleasure out of knocking her down? So much so, that you were so eager to write this review that you couldn’t even wait until her label announced this as an official single?

    Scary how unprofessional this site has become, how biased and jaded with hatred towards Carrie, who is one of the most talented artists to ever grace country music.

    When I look at all the positive reviews you give to your over-rated, bubble gum pop Taylor Swift, who can’t sing her way out of a paper bag, it makes me wonder who really owns this site.

  122. stormy
    March 18, 2010 at 8:20 pm
  123. Dan E
    March 18, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Carrie and her team knows what they’re doing. This song did well when it was chosen as a promotional single. So, I’m sure it will fit in perfectly as an official. It is similar to “Before He Cheats” and “Last Name”. Those songs did great, so I don’t mind every third single having this kind of sassiness to it. I say if the formula is a very good one, no need to change it unless you feel moved to. It’s a very catchy song that will garner a lot of radio play and praise.

  124. Josh
    March 18, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Wow Stormy, thank you for posting the definition of Taylor Swift. Cheers!!

  125. sam (sam)
    March 18, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Although I do think Laura’s analysis above is a bit over the top, I am sympathetic. I did find the review to be unprofessional and, with Jeff, also “juvenile.” The comments left by people who talk about turd polishing and what not are similarly childish and uninsightful.

    Perhaps there is more of this kind of stuff than before. Perhaps I am just perceiving this to be so. But either way I think the over the top snarky reviews and the commentary about Obamavoters, turd polishing and the like take away a lot from this site.

    I’ll still visit of course but I don’t enjoy as much as I used to.

  126. klark
    March 18, 2010 at 9:31 pm

    Tara says:
    Damn Arista. This over “Songs Like This”? Really?

    AMEN!

  127. stormy
    March 18, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Polished turd is a fairly common expression.

  128. Dan E
    March 18, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Is Stormy trying to provide us some insight about himself?

  129. stormy
    March 18, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Apparently not enough for you to figure out gender….

  130. Josh
    March 18, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Ahh.. so, you were posting the definition of TS and yourself.. How awesome is that!! 2 in 1!! And yes, I knew you were a girl.

  131. Steve M.
    March 18, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Why do fans take criticism of artists personal?

  132. Steve M.
    March 18, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    That would be personally.

  133. Jon
    March 18, 2010 at 10:35 pm

    Well, Steven M., sometimes criticism of artists is framed in such a way as to constitute a attack on the taste, intelligence, etc. those who enjoy their work. And when that happens, I’d say that a fan who takes it personal (sic) is taking it the way that it was largely intended. I don’t think Juli did that in her review, but I’m not prepared to say the same about all the critics of Underwood in ensuing comments.

    It didn’t escape my notice that while Juli praised “Temporary Home” in the course of damning “Undo It,” The9513 in fact gave “Temporary Home” a pretty bad review that praised Underwood in the abstract while damning the single. A series of “her last record was [or 'she's generally'] good but this one sucks” reviews does give kind of a peculiar effect when taken as a whole.

  134. Steve M.
    March 18, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Perhaps the reviewers are simply stating that Carrie Underwood is wasting her talent on material beneath her talents.

  135. K
    March 18, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    “I would not take a review that uses that type of language seriously at all. You did a great job on making your review very juvenile, Juli.”

    Amen. There is a difference between giving criticism and doing so while using the language of a second grader.

    I will agree that Carrie does not record material that lives up to her talent most of the time. However, I think she is given much harsher critcism than most artists here, while some get a free pass. Toby can record “She’s A Hottie” and “Every Dog Has Its Day,” Brad can get away with “Ticks” and Shania can get away with endless lines like “Even my skin is acting weird, I wish that I could grow a bread, while hardly anything is said against it.

    I think Carrie has grown tremendously as an artist within the last few years. Her new tour is above anything she’s ever done, her co-writes are now songs that we can actually imagine her writing (“Mama’s Song,” “Undo It,” “Songs Like This.”)

    She is trying new avenues, from new directors to movie roles, tv shows, touring, and writing. Even though Carrie tends to write and record cliche material, I like that I have a better idea who she is by listening to her records. You know she’s that “All American Girl,” you know she’s been hurt by the anger in “Before He Cheats. You know she believes in a “Temporary Home” everytime she opens her mouth to sing it.

    In my opiniion, Carrie’s gradual growth is better than Taylor-stuck-in-high-school Swift, Kenny’s always-stuck-on-an-island-Chesney, among many others who continously take steps backwards over small steps forward.

    She can’t seem to win in many regards. She co-writes her music and shows who she is, people don’t call her an artist, but if she didn’t co-write the same thing would be said. You praise her sparse nods to tarditional country, but then you tear her down and say she needs to always go that route to live up to her potential. Carrie is an artist who cares about representing country music, and she does everything she can to go outside of her comfort zone as an artist. Carrie be forgettable now, but I gaurntee her immense talent will be remembered when measured against the average voices and medicore songs of Chesney, Swift, Urban, Lady Antebellum, and co.

  136. JCH
    March 18, 2010 at 11:42 pm

    It’s not exactly an irregularity to hold Underwood in esteem while thinking very little of the material she is delivering.

    For me, Carrie has an sensational voice but her most recent album was simply sub par – along with the single choices.

  137. Paul W Dennis
    March 18, 2010 at 11:50 pm

    Also I am not sure that comparisons between Taylor Swift and Carrie Underwood are terribly germane. Other than both being female, they have little in common.

    Carrie has a magnificent voice, but struggles to find good material and isn’t that proficient a songwriter.

    Taylor can’t sing a lick, but is a very creative writer who has zoned in on her audience and will continue to develop as a writer as she becomes more mature.

    I seriously doubt that their current audiences overlap much. At this point in their respective careers, both still have considerable room for improvement and both undoubtedly will continue to grow in some manner although where either will end up is anybody’s guess

  138. Alena
    March 18, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    K, you’ve said it. I agree with you 100%. A wise person once told me something that I’ve always believed to be true and have been proven true. He said: “Those who peaked too early or too fast, have nowhere else to go but down.”

    I’m glad that Carrie isn’t the most famous or isn’t the one who wins every single award or even the one who everybody finds can do no wrong etc. I believe that she’s an artist that always strives to better herself. Never once does she think that she’s the best. Always the one who’s humble and always remembers her roots. She never fails to respect other artists that come before her and never does she brag about her success.

    She always thanks God, first and foremost, for everything. She is the best role model young girls can look up to. She respects her parents, her friends, her peers, her fans. I’m honored to have heard and seen her in person. And I am grateful that she graced the Idol stage. The music scene is better with her in it. If I may, in my humble opinion, I believe that Miss Underwood is the voice of this generation.

  139. Leeann Ward
    March 19, 2010 at 5:55 am

    I know better than to weigh in on this mud slinging affair, but…

    I think Paul is right though. The comparisons between Swift and Underwood are kind of unfair, as their strengths are different.

    While I actually understand some of the reaction from Underwood fans toward certain Underwood detracters on this thread (as some of the detracters have been needlessly harsh), I think the reaction regarding the review, and moreover Juli, has been appalling. From what I can tell, she made a big effort to be direct regarding her feelings on the song without personally attacking Underwood and even offering positive feedback where she could (see final paragraph). As far as I know (though I could be mistaken), Juli doesn’t have a public history of being unfair to Underwood. In fact, this is the first review that I recall that she’s written on her.

    The fact that “temporary Home” was not given a favorable review here doesn’t have anything to do with how Juli feels about it, since Juli isn’t the one who reviewed it. Only judging by how Country Universe works, I’m guessing The9513 is cohesive in many ways, but that they’re independent in how they review and what they think about specific songs, albums and artists. As with Country Universe, I’m guessing that the writers are not mandated to put on a united front on such matters. Considering how many writers they have here, it’s likely that the point is to gather diverse musical perspectives.

  140. Stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 7:42 am

    Did y’all even read the review of Toby Keith’s “Every Dog Has His Day?”

  141. Stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 7:49 am

    Another term her fans might want to become familar with:
    Fanwanking.

  142. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 8:15 am

    Another term her fans might want to become familar with:
    Fanwanking.

    Waiting for Steve M. to ask why fans would take that personal (sic)…

  143. Dan E
    March 19, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Honestly, it doesn’t matter what a reviewer or bloggers on here say that’s negative. As long as Carrie is enjoying what she’s doing, her fans are loving what she’s putting out, then everything is fine. Carrie has already proven to be a one-of-a-kind artist in her own right. She’s destined for a career as successful as Martina McBride and Reba McEntire. She sticks to her ways by writing songs and singing about what she wants to sing about. Years from now people will still criticize her, while a bigger majority will have positive things to say. Anything negative that is written her way, she’s not going to lose any sleep over it.

  144. Steve M.
    March 19, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Well in my world Jon wanking is a personal matter. Perhaps you consider differently.

  145. Stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Jon: Fanwanking is a term that originated in television. It refers to fans going to great lengths to make things that are bad seem good (or in television things that are impossible seem reasonable). To wit, Carrie Underwood recorded this song because a wizard made her do it.

    Its not a personal attack.

  146. Dan E
    March 19, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Stormy: You’re going to great lengths trying to make something good seem bad.
    You know, it does work both ways.

  147. Michelle
    March 19, 2010 at 11:15 am

    Steve M., will you describe what a wanker does, or is it too personel(sic)?

  148. Stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Dan: I did not say there was anything wrong with wanking of the non-fan variety…

  149. Steve M.
    March 19, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    Michelle,
    Wanking in public can get you a public exposure charge in most states. To wit, see what happened to a Baseball Hall of Famer.

    http://serafinisays.blogspot.com/2007/12/thats-why-they-call-him-dick-williams.html

  150. Michelle
    March 19, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Well, that explains why mom hung up when she asked what I’ve been up to. I wish you would’ve explained sooner!

  151. K
    March 19, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    “I think the reaction regarding the review, and moreover Juli, has been appalling. From what I can tell, she made a big effort to be direct regarding her feelings on the song without personally attacking Underwood.”

    I don’t think anyone has a problem with Juli herself. Yes, some of the fans have overreacted, but for the most part it seems that readers were irritated with Juli’s unproffessionalism and immaturity regarding her feelings about “Undo It.” Everyone has the right to an opinion, but the way Juli chose to express hers was inapropriate in my opinion. I can see how being so harsh would elicit claims that Juli was being (unintentionally) bias here.

    If you chose to chose words like “turd” and “stupid” regarding a song that is really no worse or better than most of what her one-trick-pony peers are doing, don’t we have reason to expect equal treatment for them? This review elevated the level of criticism by more than a few notches-it has crossed the line, which does suggest a bias to me.

    “Fanwanking is a term that originated in television. It refers to fans going to great lengths to make things that are bad seem good (or in television things that are impossible seem reasonable). To wit, Carrie Underwood recorded this song because a wizard made her do it.”

    The good vs. bad argument is purely an opinion. Someone who doesn’t like Carrie Underwood’s music is not going to twist wording around to make it seem like a great song. Moreover, I think many of Carrie’s fans can admit “Undo It” is extremely weak lyrically. Those defending it are mostly evaluating her performance of the song- which seems to be what makes a goofy lyric at least enjoyable to listen to. Personally, I would rather listen to a great singer with lousy songs than a horrible singer with great songs.

    But that raises the debate of what will be remembered. Will Taylor be rememembered for her insightful lyrics on “White Horse” and “Fifteen,” or remembered for her embarassing vocal performances and many juvinile songs like “You Belong With Me” and “Fearless?

    Will Carrie be remembered for her fabuous voice and medicore material (“So Small,” “Last Name,” or her sparse moments when she combines a timeless song with flawless vocals? (“I Told You So, “Just A Dream.)

    Out of the two, I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer. I personally hope Carrie doesn’t end up like Martina. Martina has a fabulous voice, but a forgettable personality and forgettable songs. Carrie’s talent is too great to waste on such factors. I would be incredibly disgusted if Swift was remembered for her songs and personality, while Carrie was forgotten because she had excellent talent but wasn’t an interesting personality.

  152. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    @K Agree with her assessment or not, there is absolutely nothing unprofessional about Juli’s review.

    Out of the two, I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer.

    Huh? Why?

  153. nm
    March 19, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Good grief. About Juli and professionalism? What Jon said.

  154. Jim
    March 19, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Once again the people will love this song just like every other single Carrie has released that has gone to #1! The 9513 hates Carrie but radio and the record buying public loves her.

  155. Steve M.
    March 19, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    According to Billboard, two of her singles went to #2 while the last one peaked at #3.

  156. Stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    K:
    Actually, her fans in defending it are trying to convince us that writing this bad is a specific FORM of writing.

  157. TexasVet
    March 19, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    According to Billboard, two of her singles went to #2 while the last one peaked at #3.

    If you are referring to “Cowboy Casanova” it was a #1 on Billboard, if it’s “Temporary Home” then indeed it is currently #3 but still climbing the charts. The two singles that were Billboard #2’s were #1’s on mediabase.

  158. TexasVet
    March 19, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    Actually, her fans in defending it are trying to convince us that writing this bad is a specific FORM of writing.

    Stormy, I don’t no why anyone would waste their time trying to convince you of anything.

  159. real talk
    March 19, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    some of you people are being ridiculous, this song was specifically written for the radio, and its going to do great, all of you old school country music fans need not to listen to it, you’re no longer relevant in the days we’re in

  160. Laura
    March 19, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    First, while I agree that Carrie’s main strength is singing, she does show potential as a talented songwriter in Temporary Home, So Small, What Can I Say, etc. I find her other songwriting efforts promising as well, but for different reasons. Ie- All American Girl, Last Name, Cowboy Casanova, etc, were all Carrie cowrites too, and they all did very well on radio. Granted, they may all not win songwriting awards, but they were very popular and catchy. Not every song has to be inspirational or change the world. Sometimes people just want a fun, catchy song to dance to…

    Cowboy Casanova was nominated for Song of the Year at the ACMS, and Carrie cowrote it….so some people clearly see potential in her songwritng. :)

    She also won a Grammy for her performance of Last Name, a song she cowrote.

    I find it amusing that people here praise Taylor’s songwriting when she is not HALF the writer that Miranda Lambert is. Moreover, she is not any better then Carrie, as Taylor writes every song about the same stale subject matter of teen love drama. At least Carrie writes about different material that has more substance.

  161. K
    March 19, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    “@K Agree with her assessment or not, there is absolutely nothing unprofessional about Juli’s review.

    OK, proffesional was probably the wrong wrong to use. However, I stand by my assesment that the review is one of the most immature and juvinile pieces I have ever read here. Sure, she’s not a proffesional journalist, but there should be an expectation of a welll-written piece that’s somewhat insightful and mature. I wouldn’t go to a job interview and swear like a salior because “no one told me I shouldn’t,” right?

    I have nothing against Juli (or any writer here). I don’t think this site has a bias against Carrie, and I agree with much of their critism, even though I’m a longtime fan.

    “Out of the two, I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer.”

    That is just an opinion; feel free to disagree. However, I would much rather see a great singer be remembered because that’s what they’re paid to do. If you do your job well, you should be rewarded. If Taylor was a full-time songwriter, the same thing goes. If she continues to write great songs, she should be praised and rewarded for that. However, if you try to be a songwriter and a singer but aren’t particularly talented in one area, why should I think the lesser talented one should be remembered?

  162. sam (sam)
    March 19, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    I think K was right to call the review “unprofessional.” It was also “immature and juvenile,” in my opinion.

    And I also agree with K about something else. When I come to the9513 I usually get, and I expect, “a well-written piece that’s somewhat insightful and mature.” I found the review to be neither.

    For what it is worth, I’m not some kind of super Carrie fan freakbot, either. I’ve never been to a Carrie show, I’ve never downloaded any of her music, and I don’t even particularly care for this new song.

  163. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    *facepalm*

    By an reasonable way of understanding the term, Juli is a professional journalist. I don’t know that I would hold this up as the strongest example of her writing ever, or as the strongest review I’ve ever seen, but it’s well between the lines of what constitutes mainstream music journalism these days. And a reference to polishing a turd is not “swearing like a sailor.” Period. As Stormy (bless her heart) pointed out, it’s a not-uncommon, if colorful phrase that makes a vivid point. I guess she could have said something about putting lipstick on a pig, but then there would be dozens of posts accusing her of calling Carrie Underwood a pig.

    In short, you can disagree with the review – myself, I think it exhibits a tendency common to many reviews here on The9513, overvaluing lyrics and undervaluing music – and I suppose that “maturity” can be said to be in the eye of the reader, but I see no good reason to call it “unprofessional” or, for that matter, poorly written.

    “Out of the two, I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer.”

    That is just an opinion; feel free to disagree. However, I would much rather see a great singer be remembered because that’s what they’re paid to do. If you do your job well, you should be rewarded.

    But you should be rewarded better if that job happens to be singing rather than writing? I’m sorry, but I still don’t see why. What makes singing a more valuable skill than writing a song?

  164. Lucy
    March 19, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    OMG Jon,

    “Out of the two, I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer.”

    That is just an opinion; feel free to disagree. However, I would much rather see a great singer be remembered because that’s what they’re paid to do. If you do your job well, you should be rewarded.”

    “But you should be rewarded better if that job happens to be singing rather than writing? I’m sorry, but I still don’t see why. What makes singing a more valuable skill than writing a song?”

    Didn’t you read???

    K didn’t say that singing is a more valuable skill. K said that they should be rewarded for what they are paid to do.

    “If you do your job well, you should be rewarded. If Taylor was a full-time songwriter, the same thing goes. If she continues to write great songs, she should be praised and rewarded for that. However, if you try to be a songwriter and a singer but aren’t particularly talented in one area, why should I think the lesser talented one should be remembered?”

  165. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    OMG, Lucy, I totally read, and this is what I read:

    “I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer.”

    And then I read:

    “I would much rather see a great singer be remembered because that’s what they’re paid to do.”

    Now, those aren’t talking about anyone in particular; they’re two simple, straightforward statements that I would like to have explained.

  166. Lucy
    March 19, 2010 at 7:29 pm

    OMG Jon, apparently you have no concept of the word ‘opinion’. In case you haven’t noticed, K used the words “I would”. It’s their opinion, lay off. Oh yeah, K did explain those statements.

  167. stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Realtalk: Yes, because the radio is such a cutting edge and effective way of marketing your music.

  168. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    OMG, Lucy, I like totally know what opinion means. I was just asking K to explain this one, because I don’t get why you’d want to see singers get rewarded more richly than songwriters. Do you have an opinion on the subject? Because if you don’t, then OMG, why are you involving yourself?

  169. stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    Who listens to radio anymore?

  170. sam (sam)
    March 19, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    Clearly nobody listens to radio. Or if they do, they are backward losers, you know, the kind no sophisticated person would want to market their music (or any other product to).

  171. stormy
    March 19, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    Radio is a dying genre and its dying because it attempts to narrow its demographic in all genres to teenagers left it unable to cope with the instant personalization of the internet.

  172. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    <iWho listens to radio anymore?

    A lot of people – in the tens or maybe still hundreds of millions. And when you add in satellite and internet radio, many millions more. And it’s generally the case that airplay on satellite and internet radio doesn’t really look all that different from terrestrial radio; satellite and internet serve niche markets better, but they’re still niche markets, and the preponderance of listenership feels itself pretty well served by hearing the same stuff they also hear on terrestrial radio. Radio is still definitely an effective way to introduce music to potential buyers.

  173. sam (sam)
    March 19, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    I should clarify that my comment at 8:11 is not to be taken seriously but rather to poke fun at the idea that radio is irrelevant or that nobody listens to it.I can’t possibly fathom how anyone would make such claims.

  174. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 9:17 pm

    @Sam(Sam) No matter how heavy-handed, irony will always be mistaken for sincerity by someone reading it on the internet.

  175. K
    March 19, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    “I would hope that the legacy of a great singer is rewarded more richly than a great writer.”

    After reading my comment, I do realize it sounds very disrespectful. I don’t want to undermine songwriters, and I believe they deserve appopriate credit whenever they write a great song. I realize many of the songs in Nashvile are written by outside writers, and those songs make up the bulk of material I listen to as a fan.

    However, I believe that singers should be held at higher esteem than writers. After all, the reason why artists even get to have a record deal and sing those songs is because of vocal talent, right? An artist like Taylor Swift shouldn’t be hailed as a singer that recieved a record deal when her obvious talent lies in writing songs, not singing them. Similarly, I don’t believe a great singer like Underwood should get a publishing deal for being a mediocre writer, correct?

    If I discover a vocally extrodinary singer in the music business, I generally hope that they will get credit where it is due in the industry. Swift is a great writer; should she be remembered in a business that uses vocal talent as its foundation? If an artist is a better singer than one of their peers, I believe the credit is not being given properly. If a writer is a better as a singer, should they get credit over someone who was suprior to them?

  176. Jon
    March 19, 2010 at 11:38 pm

    @K, thanks for the further explanation. As near as I can tell, there are at least as many mediocre writers getting publishing deals because they have singing talent as the other way around; that’s not their fault, it’s just the way the business has been shaking out. But really, that’s neither here nor there to me, especially not in terms of these particular folks. I just don’t see why you think that singers should be held at higher esteem than writers as a general proposition. It seems to me that, if anything, it should be the other way around; a great writer’s songs can be done in a variety of styles by a variety of singers over decades. To me, that’s a pretty remarkable accomplishment.

  177. sam (sam)
    March 19, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    I’m just a fan, but as I understand it, both singing and songwriting are essential to making good music. It is, I believe, extremely difficult to write a good song or to sing very well. And as I value both well written and well sung music, and I realize that it is difficult to write and/or sing well, I would give my respect to those who can do one or both.

    I don’t quite see what is gained by going beyond that and trying to figure out who deserves more respect. I suspect it may be all but impossible to determine that conclusively, anyhow.

  178. Paul W Dennis
    March 20, 2010 at 8:04 am

    I agree with Sam, other than to note that while there have been great singers who have had hits with mediocre material, there have been more mediocre singers (all genres of music) who have had hits becasue they came up with great songs

  179. Music Lover
    March 20, 2010 at 10:23 am

    I haven’t been here for a long time. The review is quite unfair and I see how much 9513 don’t like CU. As for me, this song is OK song and a song from Play on I enjoy listening to (though not my fav) but it’s a bit upbeat and poppy.

    Hey, if you do think the review isn’t fair, just be pissed at the review. Why do you all need to bash TS?? Does it make this song greater??? Leave TS alone. Just focus on the song and if you really need to compare, just compare but don’t bash. Every artists have their own talents in music industry. Bashing other artists you don’t like won’t make the artists looked greater!!!!!!!

  180. K
    March 20, 2010 at 1:22 pm

    First off, the songwriters vs. singers debate going on here isn’t really what I intended to do with my post. I didn’t mean to imply that songwriters deserve more credit than singers and vice versa. I realize that one cannot work successfully without the other in the music business.

    Earlier, I mentioned that I would rather see a great singer be rewarded and remembered, but I should clarify. I believe a gifted singer should be remebered over a great songwriter if their talent is great than an average singer whose obvious talent is in writing.

    As I’ve said, this should work both ways. I think an excellent singer who has a job of making a living off of entertaining should be rewarded and rememebered for their legacy over someone who is not a good singer, but writer. As an example, if you are an excellent employee who does excellent work for your boss, would you want an average emplyee to be remebered and rewarded over you?

  181. Dan E
    March 20, 2010 at 1:36 pm

    Well this debate really doesn’t affect Carrie much anyway. She is an amazing vocalist that can sing anything. Beyond that, her songs (whether cowrites or non-cowrites) are way above being mediocre. She is truly one-of-a-kind.

  182. Jon
    March 20, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    @K Sorry, but that’s not very clear, either, though it still seems like you wind up saying that a great singer should be better rewarded than a great songwriter, and I still don’t see why that should be so.

  183. Carlie
    March 20, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Why does it seem like even Carrie’s biggest hits are never good according to the amateur, biased opinions on the 9153.
    The vocal is excellent, the songwriting is fine, and her delivery is spot on. Between Jim Malic and now Juli Thanki, I’m not sure how much more Carrie can get ripped. I guess 2 biased and useless opinions won’t determine anything at this point, but the fact that her sales have been skyrocketing will.

  184. Jon
    March 20, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    What’s the difference between “the vocal” and “her delivery?”

  185. stormy
    March 20, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Carlie: Have faith. I’m sure Carrie can be ripped a lot more.

  186. Dan E
    March 20, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    No ripping from a website will ever tear her apart. Carrie is fine just the way she is, and she is part of a winning formula that will just get better as time goes by.

  187. stormy
    March 20, 2010 at 7:10 pm

    Wow, her fans even praise her in cliches.

  188. Steve M.
    March 20, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    That cracked me up Stormy.

  189. Thomas
    March 20, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    …careful with you comments steve m. – there’s jon sitting on a high rise in black rubber suit with little ears just waiting for you….

  190. Steve M.
    March 20, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Jon in a catwoman suit was an image I could do mentally without, lol.

  191. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 12:26 am

    @K I accept your point of view. But let me share my point of view. I become a fan of CU since Jesus, Take the wheel and a fan of TS since Fearless. I love CU first. when I heard Love Story, I thought it’s catchy but not my type and her vocal has no distinction. I think I won’t like her music. I mean I once didn’t like TS music cos’ I used to love powerhouse singers.
    But hey, do you know what is the difference between TS and other powerhouse singers??? Though she wasn’t a gift singer or was born with thin, flat vocal, TS can show more deep feeling and soul in her songs because she writes her own music and lyrics come from her heart and own feelings. We don’t need to put much effort to find deep emotion and soul in Taylor’s songs. That’s a RARE TALENT in music industry.
    For live performance, yeah you are right she can’t sing well. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve more credits than natural pure gift singers. She did work hard til’ her fingers bleeding from the start of her music carrier. She has many talents except gifted vocal.
    Every artists have their own talents and weakness. You don’t have to insult someone’s weakness!!! TS just turn 20, her vocal will be improved, so what a big deal??
    I’m just trying to say TS doesn’t suck as you all mentioned!!!! I love both CU and TS!!! Both don’t suck!!!! They are good in different ways and deserve every honors they got!!!
    CU fans Vs TS fans is the only thing that sucks!!!!
    The songwriters Vs singers debate sucks, too!!!!!

  192. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 12:31 am

    “Every artists have their own talents and weakness. You don’t have to insult someone’s weakness!!! TS just turn 20, her vocal will be improved, so what a big deal??”

    Because she gets paid to sing professionally?

  193. K
    March 21, 2010 at 12:45 am

    First off I’ll say that my comments were taken out of context. With all due respect to Jon and yourself, my comments are pretty straightforward.

    Nowhere did I say that singers were better than songwriters. Both are needed to run a successful music career. I did say that artists should get credit where their talent lies- if you’re a songwriter, but not a great singer I don’t think you should be rewarded or praised over singers that are suprior to you. If you’re not a great writer, I don’t think you should be praised over writers suprior to you.

    As far as my comments about vocals go, I was trying to demonstrate that I think vocal talent should be properly rewarded because that is what we the public pay them to do. Just as a songwriter should be rewarded for penning a great song. Taylor Swift has writing talent, right? But I don’t think she should be fawned over for being a singer/songwriter when her true talent really only lies in one area. I realize that appeals to a broad audience, but I just don’t agree that she should be labled as she is. The public fawns over her and she gets splashed with awards for being “the best of the best,” and she gets showered with praise. My problem with that is the media tends to reward her for being a great singer- not a singer-songwriter. This is a major mistake, considering she is techinically being honored for something she’s not good at in the eyes of the media. Kind of like how the media calls her a country artist, but she clearly compromises herself for pop.

  194. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 12:47 am

    She came on tho the music scene with multi-talents and talented artists never fail to be recognized. There’s no need to pay to sing professionally for a talented artist.

  195. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 12:51 am

    “There’s no need to pay to sing professionally for a talented artist.”

    ? if she is a singer/songwriter, isn’t singing a part of her job? Seems like not being able to carry a tune is a major handicap.

  196. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Oh ho ho!!!
    Here we go, again. You seems like you don’t really read my comment. Yeah, I already said that I know she can’t sing like CU and can’t carry a tune til today when she sings live. But, Mr. Steve M, aren’t you a bit unfair when you wanna portray TS as a sucker just because of her can’t-carry-a-tune vocal??? Are you trying to tear down her artistry life by bashing her vocal??? We all know vocal is a big deal in music. But, you guys are a bit rude and harsh on TS when you post comment about her vocal.

  197. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 1:46 am

    How is it rude to point out she can’t carry a tune live?

  198. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 2:00 am

    You sound like an old stubborn man. Let’s stop here. I’ve read your comments about Taylor and I know how much you hate that girl. You always start acting mad when you talk about her. You really wasting your time to bash that girl. What a pity….

  199. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 2:24 am

    If you think 40 is old, then you are in for a shock later in life. Again, how is it bashing to point out public problems that become national debate after various televised appearances?

  200. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 2:41 am

    I know, I also don’t like TS winning Vocal awards except Grammy for White Horse. That deserve a debate. TS ain’t good at singing live, but in studio songs she did show emotion and deep soul in her songs cos’ she wrote them. If you don’t believe, be my guest and listen to her songs.

  201. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 2:46 am

    I prefer live acts. But i again question how you can expect a long career if you can’t sing live. Eventually record sales dry up (even for hot artists who seem like they will remain on top) and you have to depend on touring for a livelihood.

  202. Joey
    March 21, 2010 at 2:46 am

    The reason why she sounds decent in studio is because it’s auto-tuned. And her winning grammy for white horse? I suppose you haven’t heard Carrie Underwood’s Just A Dream.

    Her songs are childish and immature. And all of them sound the same. She needs some new materials.

  203. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 3:10 am

    The vocal problem TS has is not about the fact that she was born with thin, flat vocal or her vocal has no distinction or she can’t hit the high notes. The problem is that she missed many right notes when she performs live. It means she need to put more effort on her vocal. She just need times to improve her vocal.

    Personally, I think her live performance wasn’t bad before VMA accident, but after that accident, her vocal became pitchy and unstable and she missed right notes. Maybe because she was under stress and anxiety when she performs live. I mean that incident drive her to that conditions.

    Yeah, her songs may be a bit teenagery and immature but they are, at least, her own experiences,real and relateable. That’s why her fanbase is full of teens. But, we have no right to say that her songs are bad or don’t deserve any awards because of immaturity. Teens have their own powers. There’s also a saying,”Today youth, tomorrow leader” right???

    If you aren’t impressed by her songs and just insult her songs, it’ll be like you don’t care about teen power and don’t believe in today’s youths including your teen children.

  204. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 3:17 am

    Finally, whatever we like or not, she’ll stay quite a long time in music. All we can do is watch her vocal will be improved or not and what direction her music will be going….
    I’m done.
    Enough for today.
    Quite tired from lecturing you about TS.
    Just kidding, don’t be mad, Mr. Steve M…
    :D

  205. Razor X
    March 21, 2010 at 8:38 am

    Personally, I think her live performance wasn’t bad before VMA accident …

    What is a VMA accident?

  206. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 9:08 am

    Don’t tell me you don’t know the whole Kanye thing at last MTV VMA.

  207. Razor X
    March 21, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Don’t tell me you don’t know the whole Kanye thing at last MTV VMA.

    Yes, I do. I just didn’t know what “VMA” referred to without the MTV and Kanye references. Why do you call it an accident, and how was it responsible for a deterioration in Taylor’s singing ability?

  208. Music Lover
    March 21, 2010 at 9:51 am

    Huge star that Taylor is, she will still get nervous occasionally. There are some people that Taylor looks up to and admires. No matter how good a singer you are, imagine being invited to sing live or knowing that there are millions of people watching your live performance.

    The Kanye West incident certainly didn’t help Taylor’s nerves. She has managed to avoid reading most criticism of her in the press or online but when you find out that your fellow performers have such opinions and they show them live on International TV, that has to have affected her confidence. When you look out at an audience of stars, not knowing if they love or hate your type of music and you have to give a live performance, it’s not easy and it never will be easy. Taylor is 20 years old and there are stars that are older and more experienced that still have nerves and resort to autotune/lipsync to help out.

    Look..unless u got raw natural talent like Martina Mcbride u can’t sound good everytime u sing live. Taylor is still in the proccess of developing her vocal talent. She’s not the first to do that. Take a look back at Avril Lavigne for example. Listen to “Try to shut me up tour” in 2003 and “best damn tour” DVD in 2008 and compare-she was pitchy in 2003 but now…she has improved. Same goes for Taylor. She wasn’t born to sing but she made a change at 12. And she’s getting better. If i was to give an advice to Taylor as a songwriter i’d say that she should get a vocal coach. A singer is like an athlete – u can’t perform if don’t do some practice. I love Taylor but that doesn’t make me not see the truth. She is pitchy at times. But she can be great some other times. Let’s all support her in that…

  209. Erik Pettersen
    March 21, 2010 at 10:05 am

    This thread would be like a five-star meal for Freud.

  210. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Erik, that’s a good one!

  211. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 10:54 am

    But i again question how you can expect a long career if you can’t sing live. Eventually record sales dry up (even for hot artists who seem like they will remain on top) and you have to depend on touring for a livelihood.

    In the first place, there’s no good reason to think that Taylor Swift will ever need to depend on anything for a livelihood; I’ll bet she’s already made a lot more money than any of us here ever will in our lifetimes. Secondly, while it may have escaped Steve M.’s attention, Swift had one of the most successful headlining tours by any artist in any genre last year. You’d think from his comment that there’s some question as to whether Swift can fill halls night after night, but in fact there ain’t.

  212. CJ
    March 21, 2010 at 11:09 am

    Oksy, why are you all talking about Taylor Swift here? You do realize that the article is titled “Carrie Underwood – Undo It”?

  213. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Blame the Carrie Underwood fans who can’t resist dragging in comparisons to Swift.

  214. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 11:29 am

    Tell it like it is, Jon!!

  215. Matt B.
    March 21, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    It’s always a CU Vs. Taylor. argument.

  216. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Musiclover: Actually there are a good number of singers who sound good every time they sing live. I have heard Tift Merritt pull out a decent singing vocal when her voice was so shot she could barely talk. As shocking as this in the modern era a singer who is able to sing well live is just barely meeting the standards of their job. They are not doing anything exceptional for a singer. That is why they are called singers. Of course, there are some people like Willie Nelson who do not have a great voice, but they are the exceptions and not the rule.
    Besides which Taylor Swift is not even a good songwriter.

    Jon: Yes, Carrie Underwood fans keep bring up Taylor Swift. Which is evidence of my theory that she is the only other country singer they know. When pushed farther they will bring up Lady Gaga, or Ke$ha or Avril Lavigne. In their defense, they also tend to ignore Sarah Barrielles, Christina Agulleria and pop singers who sing and write well. Apparently, we are only supposed to compare Carrie to people who set the bar really low.

  217. Dan E
    March 21, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    Both singers are great! Carrie is the tops though. She is the best thing to come to music in quite some time. I love “Undo It” and it will no doubt be a giant success for her. Country music is great to have her aboard.

  218. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    Jon,
    What Behind the Music has taught us is that money now doesn’t equate to long term wealth for an artist. And while she may be packing them into the arenas now, what will happen in 10 years if she isn’t getting airplay?

  219. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    What Behind the Music has taught us is that money now doesn’t equate to long term wealth for an artist.

    “Us?” I don’t need television sensationalism to tell me about how musicians live, especially not once you get outside the realm of rock stars. People in all walks of life can be more or less prudent with their money.

    And while she may be packing them into the arenas now, what will happen in 10 years if she isn’t getting airplay?

    Dude, you’re the one who claimed that you’ve got to be able to do live shows to survive if you stop getting airplay, and then you argued that she can’t do live shows because she “can’t sing.” Well, she’s doing the shows; by your logic, she’ll be in fine shape. But, of course, logic isn’t really what’s driving your end of this discussion…

  220. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Given that most of your arguments are based not on logic but on parsing, your attempted sneers come off less effective then you think. Her arena tours are driven by radio play, but if tastes change, as they will, will she have a reputation of someone who puts on a great show and thus can continue to attract audiences without recent hits? I highly doubt it.

  221. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Also, while you can auto-tune, or even lip sync live vocals in an arena, it is much harder to do so in a club where your fans are about a foot away from you.

  222. K
    March 21, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    “TS ain’t good at singing live, but in studio songs she did show emotion and deep soul in her songs cos’ she wrote them. If you don’t believe, be my guest and listen to her songs.”

    So you’re saying that showing emotion in the studio means she can sing? Even showing connection to a song while singing live doesn’t change the fact that she’s a medicore singer.

    “Huge star that Taylor is, she will still get nervous occasionally. There are some people that Taylor looks up to and admires. No matter how good a singer you are, imagine being invited to sing live or knowing that there are millions of people watching your live performance.”

    Sorry, but she needs to learn to deal with it or get off the stage. It’s understandable that she would be nervous ocassionally, but blaming her performances on that everytime is just ridculous. It’s not like it’s her first performance at any of these shows, either.

    Carrie Underwood has broken down several times on stage, and she still gets up and delivers a performance because she knows she’s a proffesional. She was sick as a dog at the Opry a few years ago, and she still managed to hit the high notes and stay in-key.

    You don’t have to be Martina Mcbride to be able to sing, either. Most singer-songwriters don’t have powerful voices, but that doesn’t mean they can’t sing.

    Taylor has not improved in her live performances, although she’s had four years to do so. Hillary Scott (Lady A), was not a good vocalist when she started out, and she’s gotten better. Rascal Flatts have gotten a little better, and so on.

    Maybe that comes with age, but Taylor is chosing to be a proffesional at a younger age, so she should be expected to improve sooner.

    Someone actually brought up an interesting point with Wille Nelson. He can’t sing on-key, but he’s a legend, and gets a free pass. If Taylor still cannot sing on-key at Wille’s age, but becomes a genius writer and seasoned perfomer, will she get a free pass too? If you’re going to excuse one poor singer and tear down another one, then Taylor could get to that level, right?

  223. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    K:
    Willie Nelson gets a free pass because he has earned it by being better than 90% of professionals at everything else. When Taylor Swift writes a “Blue Eyes Crying In the Rain” or a “My Heros Have Always Been Cowboys” or even a “Crazy” her fans can talk.

  224. Dan E
    March 21, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    I like Taylor Swift a lot. But, I find it completely sad that people are bringing her up constantly on this particular review when she has nothing to do with Carrie’s new single. I mean, is it really that hard to stay on topic? I guess for some people it is.

    I’m hoping that “Temporary Home” hits number 1 this week or next week, so we can officially hear when the release date for “Undo It” is. It’s such a good song.

  225. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    This has gotten me thinking. Has any country star had a long career (10+ years) with a reputation of being a poor singer live?

  226. Brady Vercher
    March 21, 2010 at 5:03 pm

    I reckon Taylor Swift has as much claim to writing a couple of those songs as Willie does…

  227. Matt B.
    March 21, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    Steve M.,

    Rascal Flatts are @ 10 years now. Gary LeVox’s reputation isn’t exactly ‘golden.’

  228. Thomas
    March 21, 2010 at 5:08 pm

    …a polished turd is a polished turd, even if you sing it on-key.

  229. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    Matt,
    Not being a big listener to top 40 radio, I didn’t realize they had been around that long. Thanks.

  230. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm

    I can think of a few, but I’m not about to name them. I wouldn’t want to tick anybody off. People didn’t have computers back then to discuss it though.

  231. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Brady, apologies, but the point remains. Taylor has not earned the free pass her fans expect people to give her.

  232. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    It’s not just Taylors fans. I can think of another, but I’m not naming any names. I wouldn’t want to tick anybody off!LOL

  233. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Apparently Steve M. thinks that “to parse” means to expose errors of fact, logical fallacies and other shortcomings in dubious statements; it really doesn’t, but I’ll take it anyhow.

    Steve M., Stormy and their ilk demand that singers they don’t like adhere to some artificial standard of competence; singers they do like get a pass. When a singer they don’t like hits bum notes, s/he “can’t sing”; when a singer they do like does the same, they are “rough-hewn” and “soulful” and “authentic” and the “technical” shortcomings don’t matter. Such games are really beside the point; what counts is whether singers connect with audiences. Whether they’re in tune or not, whether their vocals are tuned or not (and I’ll tell you what, tuning is the rule, not the exception), whether they have a wide range or a limited one, none of that matters – and, when it comes to artists they like, folks like Steve M. and Stormy know it; they just don’t like to think that it applies to artists they don’t like.

    Steve M. argued that record sales are fleeting, and that artists who “can’t sing live” can’t depend on touring to earn money. When I point out that Taylor Swift has been touring extensively and successfully, he says that doesn’t matter, because he predicts that she won’t do so in the future. What kind of argument is that? Steve M., do you know the difference between a prediction and reality? Do you know how much you sound like the folks who said the Beatles were a flash in the pan who only appealed to fickle teenagers; the folks who said Bob Dylan would never last because he “can’t sing”; the folks who said “in 5 years, people will be asking, ‘Garth who?'”

    The fact is there are all manner of artists who “couldn’t” or “can’t” sing who nevertheless enjoyed or enjoy long careers, because the music they made or make spoke or speaks deeply enough to a sufficient number of people over an extended period of time. Taylor Swift may turn out to be one of those, or she may not, but either way, all this “can’t sing” stuff is beside the point – and again, Steve M. knows this to be true with respect to plenty of other artists. He just can’t bring himself to admit it with respect to Swift; my guess is because that would suggest a subjectivity to and democracy in musical taste that he has already resisted acknowledging in other discussions.

    @Stormy Willie Nelson did not write “Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain.”

  234. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    Actually Jon, to parse means you resort to the language of bureaucracy to make your point while avoiding factual examples. The use of Dylan’s career is disingenuous because doubts over his singing ability came mid-career. Indeed, given that his early success came in a folk setting where often all that backed him was an acoustic guitar. Dylan’s early work shows a strong voice as he has to enunciate clearly his lyrics. Or have you even bothered to listen to “Blonde on Blonde?”

  235. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Since I’ve been visiting this site, I’m beginning to think that a good singer is more or less a personal preference.

  236. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    <The use of Dylan’s career is disingenuous because doubts over his singing ability came mid-career. Indeed, given that his early success came in a folk setting where often all that backed him was an acoustic guitar. Dylan’s early work shows a strong voice as he has to enunciate clearly his lyrics.

    Well, that’s just wrong. Dylan’s singing on his early records was widely mocked. Look it up.

  237. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    “A bright new face in folk music is appearing at Gerde’s Folk City. Although only 20 years old, Bob Dylan is one of the most distinctive stylists to play in a Manhattan cabaret in months.

    Resembling a cross between a choir boy and a beatnik, Mr. Dylan has a cherubic look and a mop of tousled hair he partly covers up with a Huck Finn black corduroy cap. His clothes may need a bit of tailoring, but when he works his guitar, harmonica or piano and composes new songs faster than he can remember them, there is no doubt that he is bursting at the seams with talent.

    Mr. Dylan’s voice is anything but pretty. He is consciously trying to recapture the rude beauty of a Southern field hand musing in melody on his back porch. All the “husk and bark” are left on his notes, and a searing intensity pervades his songs.”
    new York Times, September 29, 1961

    I probably was too strong in my defense of his voice because to me, he is the great american poet of the last half century, but mocked also goes too far.

  238. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    Well, Michelle, I’ll say this much: most of the intelligent and useful things you can say about music don’t involve words like “good” and “bad.”

  239. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Steve M., I believe that’s from the big Robert Shelton review that helped get Dylan so much attention; believe me, there were plenty who had less favorable things to say about his singing, and “mocked” is actually a good word to use, because comical impressions of his singing were a popular pastime, akin to putting on a Beatle wig.

    It’s not quite fair to say that folks who reacted that way to his singing were missing the point, but I’ll say it anyway for lack of a better way to put it – and the people who react that way to Swift’s singing are missing the point in the same way.

  240. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    And by the way, Dylan is a songwriter, not a poet. There’s a difference.

  241. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 6:24 pm

    Jon: And if Taylor were soulful or authentic or had an iota of talent, she would get a pass too.

  242. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Yes, i know there is a difference. But place Dylan’s words alone on paper, they make for greater poetry in my opinion then Ginsburg or other modern American poets. To my mind the opening from “A Hard Rain’s Going to Fall” stands up a lot better then “Howl.”

    Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
    Oh, where have you been, my darling young one?
    I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains,
    I’ve walked and I’ve crawled on six crooked highways,
    I’ve stepped in the middle of seven sad forests,
    I’ve been out in front of a dozen dead oceans,
    I’ve been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard,
    And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard,
    And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall.

  243. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 6:31 pm

    @Steve M. Bob Dylan’s a songwriter, not a poet. He didn’t place his words alone on paper, he wrote them to go with specific chords and melodies. Take those away, and you are doing him and his work a disservice.

    @Stormy Obviously, there are a lot of people who find Taylor Swift’s music to be authentic and full of talent. Same with Carrie Underwood’s. Why should I prefer your opinion on the subject to theirs?

  244. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    Then you better alert the “Norton Introduction to Literature” which includes “Mr. Tambourine Man” in its section on American poetry.

  245. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    Steve M. If they printed his lyrics without the music, then they did his work a disservice. Pointing to other people’s mistakes as a way of excusing your own is a bad idea.

  246. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    Yes, because I should take your word over the editors of a prestigious series?

  247. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Jon: Because my opinion doesn’t come complete with a dose of fan wanking.

    Also, entire courses are taught on the poetics of lyrics without their music.

  248. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    Jon, what word am I supposed to use if I can’t use good?

  249. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    @Steve M. Not just mine. And really, it is self evident that printing song lyrics is not reproducing the work as a whole; just like leaving out verses, or words. To say that song lyrics can work as poetry is not the same thing as saying they are poetry, because they aren’t. They are, for the most part (and in this case), constructed as integral wholes. This is not rocket science.

    @Stormy But as you frequently demonstrate, your opinion comes complete with a dose of ignorance. I don’t see any reason to prefer the one over the other.

    Courses are taught on many things in many ways at many places. Entire courses are taught on the inerrancy of the Bible; does that, in your opinion, make the Bible inerrant?

    Consider this: it is drearily common for people to recall a tune but not remember some, or even many, or even all, of the words that go along with it. How common is it for people to remember song lyrics but while forgetting the tunes they go with?

  250. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 7:18 pm

    Michelle, there’s never anything wrong with saying “I like x.” That’s usually what people mean when they say “x is good,” so why not just put it that way in the first place?

    Of course, saying “I like x” doesn’t really qualify as especially intelligent or useful either ;-). The best writing about music addresses it descriptively – it tells us what’s going on with it, informs us about its contexts, and so on – rather than simply revealing a taste.

  251. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Given that the author’s permission is needed to be included in an anthology, are you saying that Bob Dylan himself is wrong since he himself must agree his work can be included as an example of poetry? And that the editors of a respected anthology used in hundreds of university classes know less about the study of English literature and poetry then you? Why Jon with that attitude, tenure for you at Harvard can’t be far off.

  252. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    Jon: No, it makes portions and versions of the Bible literary enough to withstand critical literary theory. I don’t think anyone is saying that Bob Dylan is inerrant, merely poetic.

  253. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    Given that the author’s permission is needed to be included in an anthology, are you saying that Bob Dylan himself is wrong since he himself must agree his work can be included as an example of poetry?

    Um, are you sure about that? Sure that Norton got the publisher’s permission, sure that Bob Dylan owns the publishing? Because it’s the publisher’s permission that’s needed – if permission is needed, if it doesn’t qualify as fair use – not the author’s.

    As for the second question, you’ve misstated it. The question is not what the Norton editors know about the study of English literature and poetry, the question is what they know about songwriting. D’oh!

  254. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 7:52 pm

    Jon, I can’t find where it states that YOU MUST BE A WRITER or MEET JONS APPROVAL in order to leave a comment on this site! It simply says LEAVE A COMMENT!! So I’m confused by your comment to me.

  255. stormy
    March 21, 2010 at 7:55 pm

    Actually, Jon, if they are going to classify something as poetry they need to be experts in POETRY.

  256. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 7:57 pm

    They would have to secure the rights from Sony, who I believe own the publishing rights. But it is also common to secure a written release from the author in academic works (having contributed to several, i have always had to sign releases) to maintain good relations with the author. And I love how once again you resort to parsing to refute an argument. The editors saw his work not only as songwriting but poetry. You claimed they were wrong but offer nothing but sarcasm as proof. Dylan’s works have been studied as poetry in college courses for years and I am betting all of those English PhD’s wish they had consulted you first to learn they were wrong.

  257. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    They would have to secure the rights from Sony, who I believe own the publishing rights.

    Nope. There are a couple of possible publishers, but Sony is not among them. Why would you make such a statement?

    But it is also common to secure a written release from the author in academic works (having contributed to several, i have always had to sign releases) to maintain good relations with the author.

    I believe the technical term for this is “blowing smoke.” So let us say that the question of whether Dylan views his song lyrics as stand-alone poetry is an open one.

    The editors saw his work not only as songwriting but poetry. You claimed they were wrong but offer nothing but sarcasm as proof.

    Dude, I offer the song as proof. Whether it’s “Mr. Tambourine Man” or “Hard rain,” it has a melody and chords. As opposed to a poem, which rarely has even a melody.

    Dylan’s works have been studied as poetry in college courses for years and I am betting all of those English PhD’s wish they had consulted you first to learn they were wrong.

    Did you take note of my point to Stormy about college courses teaching the inerrancy of the Bible? Apparently not.

    But the fact is, they wouldn’t need to consult me at all; all they’d need to do is think about the topic objectively. A poem and a song are, generally speaking, two different things. One has music, the other doesn’t. Occasionally one finds musical settings of poems, but those are also usually denominated as such – and in the case of Dylan, as with Lennon-McCartney, whose lyrics also appear in poetry anthologies from time to time, we know that we’re talking about songs. Not poems. These kinds of inclusions can virtually all be traced back to a late 60s-early 70s effort to be “relevant,” rather than to an intellectually rigorous argument about the ways in which song lyrics can or should be considered as poetry.

    Furthermore, if Taylor Swift’s lyrics are taught in college poetry courses, will they become, in your eyes, poetry? Unless the answer is an unqualified “yes,” then citing the teaching of Dylan’s lyrics as poetry in college coursees is intellectually dishonest.

    I find that usually, those who prattle about song lyrics as poems are folks who have no musical talent, and really, not much interest in music at all. And I have no problem believing that that would be a reasonable description of all those English PhD’s (sic).

  258. K
    March 21, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    “Steve M., Stormy and their ilk demand that singers they don’t like adhere to some artificial standard of competence; singers they do like get a pass. When a singer they don’t like hits bum notes, s/he “can’t sing”; when a singer they do like does the same, they are “rough-hewn” and “soulful” and “authentic” and the “technical” shortcomings don’t matter.”

    Amen. I think some people are quick to criticize Taylor because she’s immature, her songs and voice are average at best, and she appeals to a (mostly) young crowd cromprised of kids that move on from one fad to the next in the week.

    When she matures an artist, performer, writer and individual, I wonder if people will “excuse” her medicore talent as a singer if she becomes suprior in another area? Either way you look at it’s still hyprocritical.

    “Jon: And if Taylor were soulful or authentic or had an iota of talent, she would get a pass too.”

    Obviously she’s got something that a lot of past and present artists don’t. She’s the biggest crossover success since Shania, and there’s is no disputing that she’s doing something right. I think a lot of it right now has to do with marketing to MTV, overseas, and changing her sound to appeal to both pop and country listeners, but I also believe the fact that she writes her own music, designs her stage show and is very relatable to her target audience is helpful. I’m not a fan of Taylor’s music, but I think it’s unreasonable to say she has no talent.

    She’s young and has years to develop herself as an artist.

    I will even say Taylor is at least passable in some of her live performances (“Run,” “Breathe,” “White Horse” and “Tim McGraw”). Yeah, she should be better than passable, but she’s not always completley horrible. That doesn’t mean she deserves any female vocalist awards though, and, frankly, I think her win has devalued the award forever.

    I think comparing her and Rascal Flatts is tricky though. Sure, Gary doesn’t have a great voice, but he’s passable sometimes. They also have great songs to back up shortcomings (“These Days,” “What Hurts The Most,” “I’m Movin On, “Bless The Broken Road,” etc.)

    They are more experienced performers, and are one of the most successful tours on the road (six million tickets in six years), and they generally write pretty solid material. They’re not in the kind of situation where they have to worry about losing their fanbase and thier career isn’t riding on the fact of whether they will mature as artists and individuals. Taylor’s is. If you’re not a great live performer but are lucky enough to have an audience that sees enough talent to keep you alive in the music business, I’d say you can join the ranks of staying relevant for ten years with an average voice it’s fair to say you’re talent is good enough.

  259. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 8:24 pm

    @Michelle Sorry, you asked a question, I was trying to answer it. Post whatever you like, but you know, people might disagree with it and say so.

    @ Stormy Teaching the inerrancy of the Bible “makes portions and versions of the Bible literary enough to withstand critical literary theory?” That’s just gibberish.

  260. Michelle
    March 21, 2010 at 8:29 pm

    Jon, you don’t worry about my comments. If ya don’t find it informative then DON’T READ IT! And I’ll simply reveal my taste if I want to! Who the hell do you think you are anyway? Telling me I’m not intelligent for just simply revealing my taste! Get over yourself!! You’ve got a broad vocabulary going for you, but you are rude as hell!!!!!!!!!!!!

  261. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Telling me I’m not intelligent for just simply revealing my taste!

    Whoa, I don’t think that’s what I said, and for sure it’s not what I meant. Sorry if I was unclear.

  262. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 8:42 pm

    A little hard digging Jon shows according to published reports that Sony/ATV Music Publishing own the rights to Dylan’s older music while his most recent works seems to be owned by his own company, Special Rider Music. They have no website so that is not possible to prove when Dylan began to control his own publishing.

    http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/2006-04-14-jackson-sony-beatles_x.htm

    http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b132304_who_owns_beatles_songs_now_mjs_dead.html

  263. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 9:07 pm

    @Steve M. So, to begin with, if you’re right, then it’s Sony, not Dylan, who would have given permission for the reprint. But in fact, the USA Today story says “owns or administers,” and while you might not know it, ownership and administration aren’t the same thing. Furthermore, it looks like those stories might be incorrect or out of date. So the fact is, since you apparently don’t own a copy of the anthology you’re citing and can’t just look up who actually gave permission for the reprint, my charitable offering that the question of whether Dylan believes that his song lyrics are indistinguishable from poetry is open is still the best option at this point.

    So let’s leave it aside. Here’s an interesting question that should shed some light on what *you* believe: would the lyrics to “Hard Rain” have equal artistic weight if they were matched (or mismatched) to the melody and chords of “Mary Had A Little Lamb” as to the melody and chords that they were actually written with?

  264. Steve M.
    March 21, 2010 at 9:13 pm

    I would suspect that while the tune would change the perception of the song, the words of “Hard Rain” speak for themselves just laying them on the page. And while I do own a copy of the book, it sits in a box in my office, an hour and a half where I live. And I find it funny how grudgingly you accept that you are wrong.

  265. sam (sam)
    March 21, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    Although it would be the copyright holder who would have to give permission, even if Dylan did give permission, it doesn’t say very much about the debate at hand.

    Dylan (or anyone) could have given permission (or refused to give it, for that matter) for any number of reasons that have little to do with his views on whether the lyrics are poetry, or some of the other debates above.

    And the editors may have sought to include the Dylan selection for many reasons. They may think the lyrics can be read fruitfully as poetry. They may nonetheless think that Dylan is best experienced not in their anthology but on record or in concert, and yet, still have chosen to include the lyrics for any number of reasons. The editors may also hope that if the book is used in classroom settings, then the teacher will bring in a Dylan CD to play for the class.

    If the editors or Dylan have an opinion on these matters, it is not clear from the thread what that opinion might be.

  266. Jon
    March 21, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    I would suspect that while the tune would change the perception of the song…

    Dude, that’s the whole freaking point! If the tune would change the perception of the song, then the lyrics are, at the end of the day, married to the music, and when you consider them in isolation from the music, you’re missing an essential element.

    …the words of “Hard Rain” speak for themselves just laying them on the page.

    In other words, the lyrics can be read as poetry if you read them as poetry. That certainly clears things up.

    I find it funny how grudgingly you accept that you are wrong.

    I’m pretty sure I’m not wrong. Unlike you, I actually have a pretty considerable amount of professional (meaning: got paid by other people) experience in tracking down publishing information, which isn’t always easy. But I’m also patient, so please, look up what permission there actually is in the anthology next time you’re at your office and report back.

    Song lyrics are not poems; the difference is that song lyrics are written to be sung to a particular melody, with particular chords. Just as removing the lyrics substantially alters the song, so too does removing the music. Despite what Steve M. would have you believe, it’s not rocket science.

  267. Music Lover
    March 22, 2010 at 6:22 am

    @Jon, you seem like an intelligent, smart guy. I’m really inspired by you, dude. Thanks for continuing argument of TS. I wish I could say things like you but my English is not good cos’ I’m from Myanmar and English is not my native language.

    @Steve M and Stormy, I can see how big of your hatred on TS. You always wanna portray TS as non-talented off-key blah blah blah and sound like you wanna watch the carrier ending day of TS. What, ‘TS is not passable’, ‘TS is not even a good song writer’??? I wish you hatred on the girl who is twice younger than you won’t eat you up. So, good luck with you+your hatred!!

  268. james
    March 22, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Great melody and tempo. People would buy this single definitely.

    I wish the next single would be “Change.”

    Play On for Carrie Underwood.

  269. carriefanxxcc
    March 24, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    lolz,if people hate this song why are they even on this website? losers! great song!

  270. Razor X
    March 24, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Um, because there is more to this site than just Carrie Underwood reviews???

  271. Stormy
    March 24, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Affirmation that I am right to hate this song.

  272. Jason
    March 26, 2010 at 1:55 am

    Juli, I was wondering…what proof do you have that this is confirmed as the 3rd single from her album? Her site and billboard don’t confirm it yet…

  273. Solo
    March 26, 2010 at 8:37 am

    Wow…
    I feel a strong debate smell here. Haha
    For me, I love both C-Wood and T-Swift. But, to be honest, I think C-Wood has no specific talents except a strong gifted vocal talent. C-wood is a song-writer?? Well, if she can really write a song, just write a song solemnly by herself and amaze me like ‘Our song’ by T-swift which topped BB country songs for six weeks. If it is said that a singer co-writes a song, most of them really don’t write. They just try to get a credits. But I do really love her vocal and her vocal is the only big deal which helps her to live in music industry…
    For T-swift, I agree with Jon. She has many talents except a gifted vocal. Of course, she can’t sing but no one couldn’t tell that her vocal would be improved day by day and I seriously hope her vocal to be improved….

  274. Evan
    March 27, 2010 at 10:33 am

    undo it is my least favorite song from her album. Songs Like This is a much better choice if she wanted an upbeat poppy song. I have to wonder, who chooses her singles. For her last album I could never figure out why she didn’t release I Know You Won’t as a single. It’s a fan favorite.

  275. Trish
    April 25, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Undo It will be one of the biggest country hits of 2010!

    Once again the 9513 will have ripped a Carrie Underwood song and be soundly defeated by the record buying public along with the massive airplay it will be given by country radio.

    Undo It is already #43 on the Mediabase charts even though it doesn’t get released to radio until May 2 and has an add date of May 24!

    Wow, this is gonna be a monster hit!!!!

    I’ve listened to it hundreds of times so far and the beat just keeps bringing me back every time – Amazing song Carrie!

    I can’t wait to see Carrie perform Undo It on one of the final Idol shows in a few weeks and I’m sure Kara DioGuardi is also so excited being a co-writer!

  276. K
    April 26, 2010 at 12:20 am

    As for the Underwood/Swift debate?

    I disagree that Carrie has no talent besides being a great vocalist. For starters, she’s co-written and recorded some solid songs (“Someday When I Stop Loving You,” “Just A Dream,” “I Told You So,” “Jesus, Take The Wheel,” “Don’t Forget To Rember Me,” “What Can I Say” and “Temporary Home).

    She’s loosned up as a performer, and is definatly more engaged with her audience and connected to her material also. Compare her performances of “Just A Dream,” “I Told You So”, “Jesus, Take The Wheel,” “Don’t Forget To Remember Me” “Undo It” or “Before He Cheats” to anything she performed on Idol and you will see her growth.

    As someone else mentioned, since when do you have to write all your material to qualify as a true artist? I couldn’t imagine anyone else but Carrie singing with the same gusto on “Before He Cheats” or sentimentality on “Jesus,Take The Wheel” or “Don’t Forget To Remember Me” anymore than Swift singing on one of her own songs. If an artist connects with a song and it shows, it shouldn’t matter who the writer is.

    Martina, Tim, Kenny, George and many others don’t write thier own material. Taylor co-writes much of her material, and it’s unfair to say you don’t know how much Carrie contributes to her songs, when you can’t answer the same questions about Taylor’s co-writing contributions.

    Also, I don’t think artists who write their own material are necessarily better or worse than artists that don’t. Look at artists like Kelly Clarkson, Beyonce, Leona Lewis, Lady Antebellum and Sugarland, for example. They are artists who openly write much of their material, but continously come up with average results. I would rather to listen to an artist that doesn’t write any of their material, but records fantastic songs than someone who is nothing more than an average writer, but continues to do so because they think it makes them more credible.

    Every artist has a unique performance style, and sometimes simply sitting on the stage and singing and connecting with a great song is just as entertaining than watching a performner jump around the stage and use theatrics to entertain for three hours. Carrie is an excellent singer who doesn’t pretend be some sort of outragous performer with an over-the-top personality because that doesn’t work for her. I recently saw her live, and I was impressed with the fact that she completely changed her show to keep her fans entertained, and she connected beautifully with so many of her songs, and actually made you feel her emotion.

    In contrast, Taylor appears to be an average writer who doesn’t write ALL her material, doesn’t particularly show a strong connection to much of her writing, and appears to be an awakward and average performer (are castles, video screens, and canned chatter anything new?)

    I’m not saying Carrie is better than Taylor, but people seem to magnify Swift’s marginal talents to make them seem fully developed, while Carrie constantly gets the shaft about her performance or writing skills which isn’t fair when you step back and objectively look at her growth as an artist over the past five years.

  277. Stormy
    April 26, 2010 at 7:53 am

    Kelly Clarkson, Beyonce, Leona Lewis

    Why would I look at these artists when I am looking for a country singer? (Also, Leona is pretty famous for one tune that was co-writte by Simon Cowell)

    Lady Antebellum
    I didn’t see Carrie Underwood picking up single or song of the year.

  278. MusicGirl30
    April 26, 2010 at 10:31 am

    I don’t understand the constant comparisons b/t Taylor Swift and Carrie Underwood. They are two very different artists, with different styles and obviously vastly different vocal abilities. I also don’t get that being a fan of each is mutually exclusive. I personally have everything each of them has recorded and there is definitely room for both. And anyone who wonders why Taylor Swift’s songs are so resonant with her young fans only needs to spend a few minutes in a junior and/or senior high school. I am a school teacher and her music is brilliantly relate-able to that age group.

    If we are going to compare these two to other artists let’s start with Emily West. She has the writing abilities AND the vocal abilities. She just might steal those crowns right off of their heads…

  279. Casey
    April 27, 2010 at 10:04 pm

    In a way I agree with this article on the point of lyrics. It’s a Kara Dioguardi song…. don’t expect much other than plain, simple, and a little cliche. However, it’s the delivery. Carrie’s vocals are amazing on anything she does. And I like the “I wanna uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-undo it” part. It’s catchy. People are gonna be singing it in their head like it’s the next “P-p-p-poker face p-p-poker face.”

    The song is golden and will surely be a number 1 hit. I’ll be you any money on that.

  280. Stormy
    April 27, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Except that she also co-wrote Sober.

  281. Jim
    April 28, 2010 at 11:48 am

    This discussion just shows how big a superstar we have in Carrie Underwood. She generates more discussion than any other artist in country music. The 9513 is well aware of this and knows a negative Carrie article means a big increase in hits for them so expect the negative Carrie stuff to continue from them.

    I agree with Trish in that Undo It is going to be a huge hit. By the way Trish it is now up to #38 on the Mediabase chart and it isn’t even officially released to country radio until Monday, May 3.

    This is unheard of so this could be one of the biggest songs in country music this year. Apparently country radio stations are so anxious to play this new Carrie single many stations couldn’t even wait until the release date.

  282. j
    April 28, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    This song gives me the chills ala Underwood style. Awesome and uplifting. What song was the author of this article listening to again? She must be a Taylor Swift fan. You know…tone deaf.

  283. Stormy
    April 28, 2010 at 9:12 pm

    Why can’t she be a Trisha Yearwood fan or a Kasey Chambers Fan or a Miranda Lambert fan or a Patty Griffin fan?
    There are more colors in the spectrum than Carrie and Taylor.

  284. Razor X
    April 28, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Why can’t she be a Trisha Yearwood fan or a Kasey Chambers Fan or a Miranda Lambert fan or a Patty Griffin fan?

    Because it is standard operating procedure among the more vigilant Underwood fans to invoke the name of Swift to deflect from legitimate criticism of their goddess.

  285. yoli
    May 2, 2010 at 11:51 am

    it’s 36 on mediabase and 34 on billboard…its a fun song to listen to on the way home from work, love it!

  286. Dan E
    May 4, 2010 at 10:45 am

    The music video for Carrie Underwood’s “Undo It” will be on May 7th. It’s premiering on CMT!

  287. Jim
    May 7, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Some corrections:

    Every one of Carrie Underwood’s songs have reached #1 on a major chart -either Mediabase or Billboard.

    There is no comparison vocally between Carrie Underwood – one (Carrie) has flawless vocals and the other (Taylor) can’t sing and is known for being an awful live performer – she can thank God for autotune in the studio!

    I’ll take Carrie’s song writing abilities over Taylor Swift’s bubble gum lyrics any day of the week. By the way, I assume noone here thinks too highly of Martina McBride because until very recently she has never written a single lyric to any song in her entire career either solely or as a co-writer. Many of your top male performers also don’t write any of their own lyrics.

    Lastly, “Undo It” was released to radio on Monday, May 3 and in four days has already reached #28 on the charts. “Undo It” is also the fastest rising song on country radio of any song! CMT is also devoting a half hour special to the video release of Undo It today and will be airing again all weekend.

    The bottom line is country radio is loving this song, the public are loving this song, and it will be one of the biggest songs in country music in 2010.

    Unfortunately the 9513 and Juli Thanki once again proved themselves to be so far from the mainstream public in their musical tastes!

  288. Dan E
    May 7, 2010 at 9:24 am
  289. klark
    May 10, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    “I’ll take Carrie’s song writing abilities over Taylor Swift’s bubble gum lyrics any day of the week. By the way, I assume noone here thinks too highly of Martina McBride because until very recently she has never written a single lyric to any song in her entire career either solely or as a co-writer. Many of your top male performers also don’t write any of their own lyrics.”

    – urg the Swift – Underwood battle again. Why compare vocally to Taylor Swift? Why not to Lambert or to Emily West? Or to Jeniffer Nettles? Just as irritating as ever. Moreover, so Fifteen, White Horse or Our song has bubblegum lyrics. Sigh, just because there was a time when she outshined Underwood you bash her.

    There is no doubt that Undo It will soon become a number 1 hit, but Carrie can do much better than that. I like the song but it’s too loud, I don’t care about the ‘you stole my happy’ thing, I just can’t listen to it without lowering the volume of my mp3 player.

    In case of their ‘state of being far’ from
    Mainstream,see the success of Wrong Baby Wrong, Pray For You and The House That Built Me, I guess this will invalidate what you have just said.

    And for the notes, I am a Carrie Underwood fan, but not the Taylor Swift bashing one. I mean, WE ALL KNOW THAT CARRIE IS VOCALLY SUPERIOR THAN SWIFT, but what’s annoying is to point how great Carrie is even if she’s releasing a not so good single and the critics were wrong for bashing that single. Most of the critics are negative with this song (see: Slant, All Music, Popmatters,etc.)

    After all, Trisha Yearwood’s instincts in picking song is so much better than hers.

  290. klark
    May 10, 2010 at 10:36 pm

    I mean ‘songs’, not ‘song’ sorry for the omission.

  291. Erin
    May 15, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    I am not a big fan of some of Carrie’s songs. (although I love her). But I love Undo It!!! Carrie is great and can do anything—she can literally sing every type of music and make it great. Undo It is fantastic. Everybody likes different things–doesn’t mean what you don’t like isn’t good. Go, Carrie!!!

  292. Dan E
    May 20, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    This song is already off to a fantastic start. So when she performs it next week on American Idol, it’s sure to see a significant jump on the charts. This song definitely has crossover potential just like “Before He Cheats” had.

  293. just dave
    May 20, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    I don’t think it’s a good song in itself, but I like it…if that makes any sense. I think only someone with her caliber of voice could pull it off (and no, I’m not fond of all of her songs). Carrie’s like a singing machine, and sometimes I just gotta tune out the lyrics.

    I think they did well with production, concealing the non-sophisticated songwriting just enough (If I think about it too much, I know that I’ve heard some of this melody before in K. Clarkson’s “Miss Independent” and can also sing parts of it successfully over Roxette’s “She’s Got The Look”).

    If the instrumental tracking or Carrie’s style were any different than it is, I feel there would be potential for this song to sound annoying to just about everybody, not only those that already find it so. But like I said, I can get some casual, mindless listening enjoyment out of this one due to the vocals.

  294. Jon G.
    June 1, 2010 at 1:16 am

    Personally, I think the comparison of “Undo It” to the oft-maligned “I Wanna Talk About Me” is a little harsh.

    And by that, I mean that it’s a major insult to “I Wanna Talk About Me.” You may not like Toby’s faux white-boy rap delivery, particularly in the verses, and, for whatever reason, you may not care for the production. However, lyrically, I don’t see how “Undo It” even compares.

    I think you have to give credit where credit is due. It’s not “Golden Ring” good (and neither is anything Underwood has had a hand in), but Braddock’s wordsmithing in the song is just plain admirable. Clever rhymes, if nothing else, abound throughout the song. Dreams and schemes might not seem too creative, but that these are subsequently paired with “high school team” and “moisturizer creme” is unexpected. From “Muncie, Indiana” and “Alabama” to “despise” and “idolize,” from “the places that you’ve been” and “the dimples on your chin” to “your medical charts” and “when you start,” “I Wanna Talk About Me” is humorous and, at times, truly original. And though it can be argued that such exertion was put into an unworthy venture, you can tell that at least some minimal effort was made on the song when you examine it closely.

    The same cannot be said about “Undo It.” Some of “I Wanna Talk About Me”‘s flaws can be overlooked because it’s playful tone and Toby’s (admittedly goofy) vocal reveal that the song isn’t meant to be taken seriously. Underwood’s “barely [restrained] anger, both at the man who’s treated her bad and at herself for allowing somebody to treat her that way” seem to indicate that she actually wants us to take ridiculous lyrics like “you stole my happy, you made me cry…and I wanna uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-undo it” seriously. By thrusting it’s sincerity at the listener, “Undo It” practically begs to be scrutinized. Closer inspection of the “song”-if that’s what you wish to call this borderline nonsensical and unforgivably severe stream of words-only illumines how vacant of substance it really is.

    “I Wanna Talk About Me” is silly and unnecessary, but it’s fun. Though far from classic, it’s lyrics are anything but cliche. “Undo It” takes oft-used phrases (about an ex-lover who “had her heart” and, via “stupid games,” of course, “blew it”) and arranges them in a way that is, well, “stupid.” On top of these dull lyrics, the production and arrangement of the song isn’t catchy-it’s annoying. I’m sorry, but I honestly don’t understand how anyone could actually enjoy this song. Hackneyed, irritating, and, worst of all, boring, “Undo It” is easily the worst song Underwood has ever released as a single.

  295. Dan E
    June 1, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Jon G.: “Undo It” is a great single release. Its catchy hook, while not too over the top, will draw a lot of people into liking this song. This song is so much better than that “I Wanna Talk About Me” song in so many ways – video, vocals, lyrics, emotion, etc. Carie takes charge with whatever song she sings and that’s one of the many reasons so many people enjoy her songs such as this one. I’m sorry you don’t seem to like it, but it’s going to be around for a long time because this might possibly reach “Before He Cheats” levels. (maybe)

  296. Jon G.
    June 1, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    I’m not sorry I don’t like it; it only shows that I actually listen to the music I hear and the lyrics that go along with it.

  297. Jon
    June 1, 2010 at 1:46 pm

    I’m sorry, but I honestly don’t understand how anyone could actually enjoy this song.

    I’m guessing that’s intended as a criticism, but it’s actually a confession.

  298. Jon G.
    June 1, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    …a confession of what?

  299. Jon
    June 1, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    Limited powers of comprehension, of course. It’s right there in your post, literally.

  300. Jon G.
    June 1, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    I confession that I don’t understand how anyone could actually enjoy this song? Because that is what is in my post.

    Jon, I get that you were trying to say I like the song, but that just isn’t there. At all.

    I guess that when YOU guess, you get a lot wrong.

  301. Jon
    June 1, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Uh, no. You’re confessing to an inability to understand that other people have tastes differing from yours. It’s essentially a lack of empathy.

  302. Jon G.
    June 1, 2010 at 8:17 pm

    Oh, okay. I thought you were just being a douche like normal. That’s actually a pretty fair point. I am confessing that, in this specific case, I fail to grasp any quality that would redeem the track in anyone’s ears enough to where they would actually like it. Generally, you’re wrong. As someone with a relatively narrow musical preference, I often recognize that other music has value even if it is not “my cup of tea.” When it comes to “Undo It,” though, I just can’t wrap my head around it. I can’t ‘empathize.’ More than anything, the cited sentence from my earlier post was a plea for someone to reveal to me an identifiable reason for why they like it so that maybe I could empathize.

  303. sam (sam)
    June 1, 2010 at 8:53 pm

    I like “Undo It.” I like Carrie’s vocals, I think the song is catchy. Its fun to sing along with. Its one of my favorite singles on top 40 country right now. I hope this goes to #1 and says there for a few weeks because I do enjoy hearing it.

  304. K
    June 1, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    I will (shamefully) admit I really like this song. Great vocals, and a great summer song. Millions of other songs fit the medicority mold here- At least Carrie can back up mediocrity with talent.

    In other news, Sony has just confirmed Carrie will be recording a Christmas album in August, Mark Bright will be her producer.

  305. Dan E
    June 1, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    This song has generated over 300 comments so far. Carrie and her songs are just too good to pass up. Just the mention of her name will bring people from both sides of the fence wanting to comment about her and her songs. “Undo It” will quickly find the number one spot, a spot that is no stranger to Country Superstar Carrie Underwood!

  306. kevin w
    June 1, 2010 at 10:58 pm

    Over 300 comments. Carrie does it again

  307. Anna
    June 2, 2010 at 12:36 am

    I just scrolled quickly down the list of comments
    and therefore got only a glimpse of what appear to be some repeated arguments among certain commenters, but I wonder what people think of Carrie’s “Neon Moon” in the tribute to Brooks and Dunn. To get a YouTube version that’s clear and in synch, search: brooks and dunn the last rodeo part 8 HD. Taylor sang on the show too and either B or D commented on the way she throws her hair around during some (most?) of her performances and though maybe this was supposed to be said sort of “jokingly,” I honestly thought it was a bit of a dig. As a singer myself, I have been stunned at Swift’s rise, since she actually CANNOT sing very well and her songs mostly have sort of “cute” amateurish lyrics with a degree of poignancy that any decent poetry writer in highschool could have penned. She’s not even that pretty, but, rather, knows how to mask her facial flaws with her hairstyle. Yes, she has a certain spunk (often manifested in her striding and hair-flinging), but spare me the feigned surprise/amazement/shock when she wins any award.
    Sorry to sound mean-spirited, as I don’t wish her any professional harm, but just as the fairly
    UNtalented Lee DeWyze won the Idol title largely because of the tweenies and their texting capacity
    (and I don’t think he’s cute either), a lot of TS’s success is due to this same crowd. Bob Dylan??? PULEEZE. Even if his style wasn’t some
    people’s cup of tea, he was groundbreaking and
    a certain kind of genius. I do NOT think TS is anywhere near THAT category, and she never will be. Anyway, do watch the version of Neon Moon I mentioned, and I’ll read these comments more thoroughly and maybe add more of my own. SMILE!

  308. Anna
    June 2, 2010 at 12:51 am

    By the way, does anyone know if the more RECENT
    “Undo It” (only a few weeks old and CBS or some similar entity pulled it from the web because of some copyright issue) CAN be found, heard, and downloaded or, perhaps bought on line? I got it briefly and next time I went to play it got the message as to its unavailability. I recall that I thought it was a much better mix. Kara D’s lyrics are often like this, so I wouldn’t fault Carrie for them on this song. It is catchy, and I find myself singing it. Several of Carrie’s songs are better in lots of ways, but this is fun, not meant to be more than that, and YOU try singing “uh uh uh uh uh uh uh” (which has the glottal thing involved) and sounding as good as she does doing it!

  309. Stormy
    June 2, 2010 at 7:48 am

    300 comments. But is using a weirdly obsessed fan base to drive posters on a website crazy an accomplishment?

  310. Dan E
    June 2, 2010 at 8:34 am

    Stormy: So, are you admitting that you have personally been driven crazy because of good Carrie comments? If so, I would leave and never come back if you’re teetering on the edge of insanity.

  311. Stormy
    June 2, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Dan: For a given definition of crazy.

  312. Melvin
    June 2, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Kara DioGuardi is a pure pop top 40 songwriter, nothing more. This song should have no business in country music. Carrie should not be wasting her talent on something as mediocre as this. Huge thumbs down.

  313. Dan E
    June 2, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Carrie’s talent is never wasted. This is a great country song!

  314. J.B.
    June 2, 2010 at 10:43 am

    I find it alright to have this song as occasional mindless guilty pleasure, having written a disclaimer to myself in my head that it’s a more-than-shoddily-written song, and that this is definitely not the “direction” in which country music-or even pop country music-should be headed.

  315. Mike Parker
    June 2, 2010 at 10:43 am

    If this is a country song, so is everything Kelly Clarkson has ever done. I don’t particularly dislike the song and I think Carrie has a great voice, I just think it’s on the wrong chart.

  316. Jim
    June 7, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    Hey Mike,

    Never heard much violin in a pop song like in Undo It! Also, pop music won’t play undo it unless Carrie remixes it for pop radio. This will not happen as Carrie refuses to remix her songs like Taylor Swift and Lady A have done to sell more albums.

    It is called having artistic credibility which Carrie has in spades.

    What a vocalist, what a song writer, what and entertainer, what a live performer.

  317. Jennifer
    June 7, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    Stormy, you sound like a total idiot. Did you ever wonder why Carrie has such an obsessed fan base instead of making such juvenile comments? It is because she has such incredible talent and character that she inspires people to an incredible level of devotion. It isn’t really that hard to understand, Stormy!

  318. Stormy
    June 7, 2010 at 2:08 pm

    Jim: Listen to Sarah McLachlin some time.

    Jennifer: I haven’t actually wondered about Carrie’s fan base. I went to grew up in Oregon and went to college in Montana so I have a basic knowledge of cult mentality.

  319. TexasVet
    June 7, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Miranda Lambert was the guest co-host on Country Countdown USA. Here’s what she had to say about Carrie.

    http://www.countrycountdownusa.com/uploads/10-23_Miranda6.mp3

  320. JR Salazar
    June 9, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    Proof that the 9513 is nowhere in the league of Billboard when it comes to reviewing. This was written to draw readers.

    Smooth move, ex lax. You had it coming.

  321. klark
    June 13, 2010 at 7:59 pm

    @JR – so All music, Popmatters and Slant Magazine are nowhere near in the league of Billboard when it comes to reviewing? Moreover, this was just written for hits? for what basis? Come’on,it is marketed as country so the 9513 had to give it a review, I mean marketed as country because I think this is pop.

    @ Anna – hell yeah, we all know that Carrie usually gives a stellar live performance. The argument is that this song receives a thumbs down. In addition, it is co written by Carrie so she deserves some blame for this. Anyway, as I have posted earlier, I like the song and this will fly to number 1 (of course). I am just wishing she will release better materials in the future

  322. Jennifer
    July 4, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Carrie Underwood is the best singer in music, period. Her power and range are incredible. It is rare to find a singer with such power that can also hit the most beautiful falsettos.

    Some of her best live performance songs to check out are : I know you Won’t and her latest combination of Jesus Take The Wheel where she finishes it with the gospel song How Graet Thou Art.

  323. Paul W Dennis
    July 4, 2010 at 8:44 am

    Good grief – a St Patrick’s day article date and still the fan club strikes

    Carrie has a very good voice. Is it the best period ? I doubt it. I can think of several who have the voices to sing Carrie under the carpet if they so chose – Cia Cherryholme, Rhonda Vincent, Mariah Carey (whose music I doen’t like one bit). I suspect Connie Smith can still do it, although at age 69, maybe not. Since I don’t listen much to R&B or what passes for pop music these days, there may be others of whom I am not aware

    As far as I know this blog doesn’t pretend to be Billboard, which is an industry trade journal more interested in the marketing of music and which typically gives fairly generic and/or superficial reviews (even PEOPLE magazine is more detailed than Billboard)

  324. Erik
    July 4, 2010 at 9:10 am

    To add to your list of people who could sing Carrie under the table: Reba, Trisha Yearwood, LeAnn Rimes, Wynonna, Lorrie Morgan and Shelby Lynne in their prime, Christina Aguilera, Anastacia, Leona Lewis, etc.

  325. K
    July 4, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    First of all, I don’t think anyone is arguing that Carrie is among the best vocalists in the world, but of our time. There’s a huge distinction between the two.

    Second of all, I think Carrie is among one of the best RELEVANT vocalists to come along in the past decade or so. Compare her to 80% of today’s female pop artists, and she’s either equal or better than most. Keisha? Check. Rihannaha? Check. Katy Perry? Check. Taylor Swift? Check. Lady Gaga? Check. Colbie Calit? Check. She far surpasses this “talent,” but is right up there with awesome vocalists like Pink, Alisha, and the few others that actually have talent and meaningful music to match.

    Third, many of the vocalists mentioned in the post above aren’t artists she would ever need to be compared to. I did say I think she’s among the best relevant vocalists, and when comparing her to people she’s up against in the music business.

    I don’t even think the examples given were the best, either. Christina has an excellent voice, but she doesn’t know how to use it. She oversings everything she touches, and that takes away from showing her true talent. Whitney, also among the best, ruined her voice with drugs and alchol; she can’t even compete with medicore vocalists these days. Mariah, same story. She used to be great, but she is awful now. She has to scream her way through every song because she can’t reach the notes anymore. Look up her 2008 performance of “Bye Bye” on American Idol to see.

    Lastly, when comparing Carrie to those who possibly have enough talent to save what is left of the business that has (almost) become a joke with this pop stars and rappers who can’t sing a lick, coupled with the pop divas who ruined thier talent and don’t know how to use it, Carrie is our hope for the best of the best these days.

  326. Erik
    July 4, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Since when is Ms. Underwood not the Queen of over-singing?

  327. K
    July 4, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    “Since when is Ms. Underwood not the Queen of over-singing?”

    Honestly, I can’t even recall one example of oversinging by Carrie. If anything, she knows how to use her voice, and restrain the power when it’s appropriate. Some of the pop divas could learn from her. As examples, see “Temporary Home,” “Mama’s Song,” “Don’t Forget To Remember Me,” “Someday When I Stop Loving You,” “What Can I Say,” and many others from her first two albums.

    Yes, Carrie shows off the power and range in her voice quite often- but it’s never to the point of being self-indulgent. As an example, compare her version of the national anthem to Christina’s- hers is so oversung it turns into the “look how how amazing my voice is” show everytime, instead of paying tribute to our country and refraining from making it all about herself.

    Carrie, on the other hand, sticks to the original arrangement, and she doesn’t do the runs and twists that she very well could do to make herself look good. Oh, and Carrie actually sings clear enough so you can actually understand the words she is singing- unlike LeAnn, Christina, and so many other females who take any oppertunity they can to make every song about themselves.

    As I said before, I believe Carrie is one of the best- check out her version of “I Know You Won’t” at the People’s Choice Awards, and then come back and tell me which relevant, talented pop artist (that you can actually understand while singing) could match or beat that.

  328. Stormy
    July 4, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    To be fair, Christina CAN do so.

  329. Kyle
    July 4, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Carrie’s an amazing singer in a lot of ways, but restrained singing isn’t one of her strong points. Ask any vocal coach… she doesn’t sing correctly most of the time, she yells in a way that’s going eventually going to shred her voice. That’s the oversinging people are referring to, not the excessive trills and stylistic stuff Aguilera et al are prone to.

  330. Nicolas
    July 4, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    Carrie Underwood can restrain her voice just fine, see “Someday When I Stop Loving You” for proof

  331. K
    July 4, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    Yelling? Carrie does not yell; she projects her voice. There is a difference. She has incredible vocal control and can sing ballads, uptempos or anything else she choses. She didn’t win American Idol for nothing. Thousands of critics have singled out her voice as being one of the best in any genre.

    You don’t think Carrie can restrain her voice? Just a few examples:
    “Don’t Forget To Remeber Me”
    “Someday When I Stop Loving You”
    “Temporary Home”
    “Mama’s Song”
    “What Can I Say”
    “I’ll Stand By You”
    “Crying” (Idol)
    “Bless The Broken Road” (Idol)
    “Do You Hear What I Hear”
    “I’ll Be Home For Christmas”

    While I do enjoy a lot of Christina’s music, and I do think she has incredible voice, I think it’s easy to see she oversings almost everything she touches. Check out a version of the anthem, her version of “I’ll Be Home For Christmas” her duet with Andrea Bochelli, among a few.

    Christina rarely seems to restrain her voice, and it’s obvious that she often struggles to do so. The only time I’ve heard her do that extremely well is on “You Lost Me,” “Hurt” and the version of “Lift Me Up” she did for the Hope For Hati album. Excessive vocal runs are impressive, but rarely pleasing to the ears.

    As I said though, I’m a big fan of both of these extremely talented women. I just think Christina tries to do too much with her voice, and it almost appears as if she’s trying to come off that way to show off her voice, when we all know she’s still extremely talented without relying on excessive vocal stylings.

    To each his own. Let me put it this way: “Just because you can sing doesn’t mean you know HOW to sing.

  332. Stormy
    July 4, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    The biggest flaw with Carrie is that she doesn’t get that loud and quiet are not the same thing as actual emotion.

  333. Kyle
    July 4, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    When she gets that loud tone she’s known for, she projects her voice from her throat, not her diaphragm. That’s more yelling than singing. Like I said, she’s a very talented singer in a lot of ways, but that’s coming straight from an experienced vocal coach.

  334. Michelle
    July 4, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Ditto, Stormy. Thanks, Kyle, for confirming what I’ve said all along, except I was referring to it as screaming. Yelling works better, though. Then there’s the crazy Carrie fans that pop in every now and then. All other female artists are a threat to their beloved Carrie. Pathetic!

  335. Dan E
    July 5, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Yay to Carrie Underwood and her marvelous voice!

  336. Erik
    July 5, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    Kyle,
    I’m curious to hear who you think is the most vocally talented female in country music – both in terms of theoretical ability, as well as execution.

  337. Erik
    July 5, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    Oh, and to echo Michelle and Stormy – to me, Underwood’s biggest problem is that she sounds completely unmoved one way or another by the material she’s singing. I’d imagine that the inevitable singing robots of the future will sound a lot like Carrie.

  338. K
    July 5, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    @ Michelle:

    Wow, we’re so mature and polite, aren’t we? Just because Carrie fans chose to defend her against immature, narrow-minded people like yourselves doesn’t make us crazy.

    @Stormy:

    So some Carrie fans have now given you several examples to show you Carrie CAN show emotion and tone down the vocals, and you’re still spewing the same old excuses? If you can’t see for yourself, then it isn’t fair of you to say Carrie is incapable of showing such skill when you refuse to see it when it’s been put directly in front of you to discover for yourself.

  339. Erik
    July 5, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    No, you’re the one spewing the same old excuses – somebody offered up some songs where she allegedly shows some restrained singing (i.e. “Someday When I Stop Loving You”), and we try to explain that loud and quiet aren’t the same as different emotions.

  340. Michelle
    July 5, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Yes, Kay, I’m mature and very polite. I’m narrow minded? Uh…WRONG! I can like more than one female country artist at a time. If that little comment about being immature is because you think I MUST be a Taylor fan then you’re wrong. It’s a constant war or battle of who’s better, Taylor or Carrie. That’s what I call immature. As for Carrie being THE BEST vocalist is narrow-minded. Yes, she has a great voice and I’ve said that before, but not everyone is going to think or feel the same as you. That’s MY opinion and I’m entitled to it, sorry! If you consider yourself one of the crazy Carrie fans then that’s your problem, not mine. Carrie fans were defending her from who? The Taylor fans? Carrie fans trash Taylor like crazy and you know it. There’s a lot of talented artists out there. They aren’t the only two! I read the comments Carries fans make all the time and it’s pitiful. Just google Carrie vs Taylor. Actually, I don’t read the comments all the time, I just thought I’d check it out to see what they say about the other and it’s pathetic!

  341. Erik
    July 5, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    Googling “Taylor vs. Carrie” can traumatize anyone.

  342. Michelle
    July 5, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Yeah, I wish I hadn’t.LOL!

  343. Michelle
    July 5, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Yeah, Stormy, you should listen to Carries fans, because they know best.LOL!

  344. Troy
    July 5, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    @Michelle ” Uh…WRONG! I can like more than one female country artist at a time.”

    Werid as the only female country singer I have seen you support is Miranda Lambert.

    @Erik and Stormy One person can’t determine if a song has emotion in. For you maybe it doesn’t have any but it clearly does for K. It not something that can really be argued over.

  345. Dan E
    July 5, 2010 at 7:01 pm

    Carrie shows the right amount of emotion for every song that she sings. She connects in a way that will allow her to keep moving forward in her career. Carrie is here for the long haul and its because she has a great voice and she knows how to execute that voice perfectly.

  346. Stormy
    July 5, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    @Stormy:

    So some Carrie fans have now given you several examples to show you Carrie CAN show emotion and tone down the vocals, and you’re still spewing the same old excuses? If you can’t see for yourself, then it isn’t fair of you to say Carrie is incapable of showing such skill when you refuse to see it when it’s been put directly in front of you to discover for yourself.

    First, you see music, you listen to it. Second, I played those and they turned my mood speakers black.

  347. Jon
    July 5, 2010 at 7:37 pm

    @Erik and Stormy One person can’t determine if a song has emotion in. For you maybe it doesn’t have any but it clearly does for K. It not something that can really be argued over.

    You won’t go far around here with an attitude like that.

  348. Michelle
    July 5, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Troy, huh? I like Miranda a lot, so? I like so many female country artists. Can you name ten female country artists you like or love? I can, easily. I’ve NEVER tried to convince you or anyone else to think Miranda’s THE BEST singer. You need to talk to K about that. You’re right, Troy, just because you or K or anyone else feels emotion from Carrie when she sings doesn’t mean that I do. So, why would you or K try and convince me or anyone that doesn’t? I’ts a waste of time and energy. It’s also senseless.

  349. Troy
    July 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm

    @Michelle I didn’t say anything about you having to think that Carrie uses emotion in her voice. As for the ive never tried to convice that Miranda is the best a comment from you from the past ” If it was up to me Miranda would be winning ALL the awards” If you think she should win all the awards then you obv are trying to make people think she is THE BEST singer.

    and here is a list of ten female country singers i like for you Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Shania Twain, Leann Rimes, Kellie Pickler, Faith Hill, Dolly Parton, older Martina McBride and Laura Bell Bundy. I actually prefer female singers over male singers.

  350. Michelle
    July 5, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Troy, I vaguely remember saying that. Yes, I was being defensive, because you was trying to convince me she was a rocker, which I thought was nutty. You also wanted to talk about Carrie and Taylor when the thread didn’t pertain to neither of them. Yes, if the awards consist of Miranda, Taylor, and Carrie then I would rather see Miranda win(it doesn’t hurt for someone other than Carrie and Taylor to win for a change). That’s an OPINION. That has nothing to do with trying to convince anybody of anything!

  351. Troy
    July 5, 2010 at 9:03 pm

    @Michelle what award has only has 3 nominees.

  352. Michelle
    July 5, 2010 at 9:41 pm

    Troy, whatever! I’m glad you’re arguing with me again, though. I’ve missed ya!LOL!

  353. Kyle
    July 6, 2010 at 12:27 am

    Erik – just to clarify, I’m not a vocal coach, that was just something I was told by a vocal coach. I might have phrased that confusingly.

    But in my humble opinion, Reba, Lee Ann Womack, Martina McBride are the best female vocalists on the charts these days. I’d honestly put Underwood up there too though… I dislike a lot of her songs and do think she “yells” more than a country singer should, but the girl’s got skills. If she cut some more traditional songs rather than this power-pop-country and focused on giving some subtlety and texture to her voice to go along with her big pipes, I’d be a big fan.

  354. Jaimee
    July 12, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Personally, I really like this song. I happen to like the lyrics. I think that “you stole my happy” is pretty catchy. I like it. I mean, it’s simple and to the point. I’m pretty sure that we can all relate to someone leaving us and making us unhappy when they do. You don’t have to have “deep” lyrics just to get your point across and positively affect the listener. I mean, that’s what music is about right? Self-enjoyment. So to everyone getting their undies all in a bunch, just RELAX. You either like it or you don’t. Either way, it’s okay. You listen to the music you like for YOU. Who cares about the “techniques” regarding how she sings or doesn’t sing? I sure don’t. Not when the song sounds nice to me. Sometimes there’s more than one way to do something successfully. If you don’t like the lyrics or the way the song sounds, then listen to something that you DO like. It’s that simple. :)

  355. yoli
    July 14, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    Undo It #3 on charts, should be number #1 in a week or 2….not such a bad song after all

  356. Stormy
    July 14, 2010 at 10:56 pm

    Chart position doesn’t make a bad song a good song.

  357. klark
    July 18, 2010 at 3:15 am

    @ Stormy – Amen.

  358. Dan E
    July 22, 2010 at 9:25 am

    Undo It is now #2 on the Billboard charts. It’s also hanging steadily on the Hot 100. Also, Carrie’s first album, Some Hearts, has now crossed the 7 million albums sold mark!

  359. Thomas
    July 22, 2010 at 9:36 am

    …and i had a bagel for breakfast, today.

  360. Dan E
    July 25, 2010 at 10:14 pm

    I hope Thomas has another tasty bagel for breakfast tomorrow because Carrie Underwood has just earned her 13th #1 single with “Undo It”!

  361. Thomas
    July 26, 2010 at 7:11 am

    …she ain’t stealin’ my happy with that.

  362. Stormy
    July 26, 2010 at 9:02 am

    Paid for, Dan–artist pay for #1 singles these days.

  363. Trish
    July 28, 2010 at 8:41 am

    If artists pay for #1’s then why hasn’t Martina McBride and her big label had a #1 in many years. Also, why has Taylor Swift and her major label failed to reach #1 on her last two singles? Bottom line is listeners have to like and request!

  364. Paul W Dennis
    July 28, 2010 at 9:38 am

    I don’t think the labels can make a #1 single out of nothing, if there is no demand at all, but they can stoke the fires through their promotional efforts. I haven’t felt that that RCA/BMG has put much push behind Martina for the last seven or eight years.

    Actually most promotion goes to pushing new acts. After an act is well established (Carrie is reaching that point), they are largely on their own

  365. numberonecountryfan
    July 28, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Since Sony owns both Arista (Carrie Underwood) and RCA (Martina McBride), why are they not pushing both artists equally? Underwood’s latest (Undo It) went to #1 while McBride’s (Wrong Baby Wrong) hit #11? McBride has not had a #1 since 2002’s Blessed, the same year she won the C.M.A. Female Vocalist of the Year!

  366. WAYNOE
    July 28, 2010 at 10:30 am

    It’s just the changing of the guard. Martina is indeed an excellent singer; however there has to be trend downward for everyone except George Strait.

    Not saying I agree with it but that is the way it is.

    We are beginning to see it on other artists as well as in Alan Jackson, Trace Adkins, etc.

  367. Jon
    July 28, 2010 at 11:54 am

    Actually most promotion goes to pushing new acts. After an act is well established (Carrie is reaching that point), they are largely on their own.

    And you know how radio promotion dollars are actually spent by major labels because…?

  368. Stormy
    July 28, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Actually most promotion goes to pushing new acts. After an act is well established (Carrie is reaching that point), they are largely on their own

    Then why did MCA acknowldge paying for spins for Somebody?

  369. Dan E
    July 28, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Since Carrie earns her number 1’s with hard work and a loyal fan base, we’ll now just have to wait and see how long it can stay on top before another song brings it down. I think this song has potential to stay on top for more than one week. (Here’s hoping!)

  370. M.C.
    July 28, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    Stormy–Do you think Kenny Chesney and Keith Urban don’t expect, indeed demand, that their new albums get just as much promotional money from the label as anyone else–especially new artists? Do you think big artists earn these companies millions but don’t expect much of an investment back in their careers?

    I think if you looked at budgets and plans for promotion and advertising, you’d see that the biggest artists also tend to get the most investment. The only place a new artist gets more push is from promotion departments taking them on the road to meet programmers and from the time spent on the phone trying to convince programmers to play someone new.

  371. Razor X
    July 28, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    If all it takes to get a #1 record is to write a check, then why doesn’t everybody have several #1s to their name?

  372. Leeann
    July 28, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Stormy,
    Seriously. Your comment borders on slander, since you state it as fact, which it’s not. I know you’re referring to Reba (as you bring it up often), but even that situation isn’t as cut and dry as you make it out to be. If you’re going to say something so harsh, you should at least be responsible enough to qualify it. Otherwise, it’s difficult to take your assertions seriously. Nothing gets me going more than purposeful misrepresentation, I’ll have to admit.

  373. Jon
    July 28, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    What Stormy doesn’t mention is not only that her “artist (sic) pay for #1 singles these days” is an (almost) unbelievably crude reduction of what MCA actually did for “Somebody” six years ago, but that Billboard in fact changed its method of calculating chart position just weeks after the story broke. Whether that’s purposeful misrepresentation I can’t say; I learned long ago that one should be cautious in ascribing to malice what can be explained by ignorance and, to use Jimmy Martin’s great word, stupidy.

  374. Adam
    July 28, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Beautiful singer, beautiful voice, love her to death, but this is still a stupid song. Incidentally, most of the upbeat stuff out of Nashville is kind of stupid. “Farmer’s Daughter”, anyone? Talk about a really stupid song…Plus, Rodney Atkins can’t sing a lick!

  375. Stormy
    July 28, 2010 at 3:40 pm

    Jon: If you go by what the label head said, they bought national ad time through conglomerates and had the single played in those spots. Its pretty cut and dry.

  376. Jon
    July 28, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    You can post it 5 times if you want to, Stormy, but that still won’t make it any more accurate – and like I said, the most important thing to note is that Billboard changed its chart methodology within a matter of weeks, making campaigns like the one you’re (inaccurately and misleadingly) referring to pointless. Check your calendar: it’s 2010, not 2004.

  377. Erica
    July 29, 2010 at 2:43 pm

    #1 SMASH HIT!!! THE 9513 IS WRONG AGAIN!!!! HAHAHAHA!

  378. Paul W Dennis
    July 29, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Hardly Erica – it is completely possible for a song to be a smash hit and total trip at the same time. It’s happened many times before (“Achy Breaky Heart” anyone ??) and will happen many times more

  379. Erica
    August 2, 2010 at 10:39 am

    NO IT’S NOT! IF IT’S A #1 HIT SONG THAT MEANS A BIG MAJORITY OF PEOPLE LOVED A GREAT SONG! OTHERWISE IT WOULDN’T HIT #1! THE 9513 LOOKS VERY FOOLISH WHEN THEY GIVE THUMBS DOWN TO A SONG THAT GOES ON TO HIT #1! IT PROVES THEY CAN’T RECOGNIZE A GREAT SONG!!!

  380. Stormy
    August 2, 2010 at 10:44 am

    A big majority of people don’t even listen to the radio anymore.

  381. Paul W Dennis
    August 2, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Erica – if everyone you know jumps into a tar pit, does that make it a good idea for you to do likewise ? If it does, then how foolish are you ??

    At one time the majority of people thought that slavery was okay. Did that make it right ?

    The great thing about this blog is that the reviewers are NOT mindless sheep, unlike the fan base of some artists (who shall remain nameless)

  382. Jon
    August 2, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Paul, do you really believe that opinions about the enjoyability of songs comparable to opinions about the issue of slavery?!

  383. Paul W Dennis
    August 2, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Jon – read my post – think – and then comment (not vice-versa).

    The issue is independent thought, not mindless fawning, which is what some readers apparently expect of a review

  384. Carl
    August 5, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    The real problem is the 9513 is mindless flawing (in the opposite direction) with all of Carrie’s releases. If all of your songs hit #1, they can’t all be bad. The 9513 wants to rubber stamp thumbs down to everything Carrie does. Jesus Take The Wheel, Before He Cheats and Just A Dream were all great country songs. I do agree with the 9513 that I would thumbs down Undo It and Mama’s Song, but I would’ve given thumbs up to both Cowboy Casanova and Temporary Home. If you give half thumbs up and half thumbs down, it shows you’re not mindless sheep. If you give all thumbs up or all thumbs down, then, yes, it shows your a mindless sheep.

  385. Jamie
    August 23, 2010 at 5:08 am

    This song is really really really horrible.. stupid as hell. Carrie is still great singer though

  386. Jooliann Huff
    September 2, 2010 at 10:30 am

    I really appreciate carrie underwood and her influence on country music, but this song IS NOT COUNTRY. It’s obnoxious how often taylor swift is put in a pop category but Carrie Underwood is no more country than she is. Last name, Jesus take the wheel, and Undo It are among a few of carries hits. Aside from the country themes of drinking, jesus, and break ups, there is nothing country about these songs. Undo it is just another example of this. Yes, the song is catchy, yes carries from some little town, yes she’s a sweet christian girl, but that doesn’t make this song country. As a pop hit, I would commend this song for decent lyrics and a fresh idea, however, as a country song, not so much.

  387. Trish
    September 2, 2010 at 11:10 am

    Last Name and Jesus Take the Wheel are definitely country. I think you need to listen to them again and the instrumentals as they are not close to pop.

    Taylor Swift on the other hand is definitely all pop. All you have to do is turn on pop radio stations.

    You also failed to mention So Small which is very country along with Carrie’s big hit she had with the remake of the Randy Travis classic, I Told you So which is very country.

  388. Enough
    September 2, 2010 at 11:57 am

    The comments thread would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

    The world would be so much better off if we rounded up the Carrie Cult members and locked them on some island where they no longer posed a risk to sane society … at least on any real election day.

    You don’t have to go far in this thread to find some classic examples of comments that are delusional and/or fabricated from sheer bile.

    Just the second comment in, you get Mary-Ann’s “it’s not her fault the lyrics suck.” LeeAnn quickly shoots that one down for any rational person, but then again, Carrie Cult members, like Joey, aren’t rational.

    Before you even hit double digits, there’s Alex’s completely irrational and pointless (other than to damn the very existence of Taylor Swift) rant.

    You just gotta love the pathetic attempt to fabricate a false back story for the author, a classic Carrie Cult tactic. I guess the only way Alex can rationalize anyone not loving Carrie as much as he does is the existence of some evil forces in their lives.

    It’s become patently clear that Carrie has a higher percentage of lunatics in her camp than any other country artist.

    You would have to think that Carrie is aware of these folks.

    If Carrie really were the “classy lady” they’re constantly claiming she is, she would tell them to stifle it.

  389. Dan E
    September 2, 2010 at 1:21 pm

    Enough: If you’re going to put something in quotes, make sure it’s something the person has actually said. When you don’t and people like me go check out your quote and see that what you said can nowhere be found, it just makes me think that either a.) this person can’t read or
    b.) you just want to deceive people with your useless rant

  390. VoiceOfReason
    November 13, 2010 at 7:09 am

    I believe this review for undo it needs to be undone! what a load of crap.

  391. Ben Foster
    November 13, 2010 at 9:15 am

    This review should stay just the way it is, but a few of VoiceOfReason’s comments should definitely be undone.

  392. MusicFan1984
    November 14, 2010 at 11:43 am

    Honestly, I couldn’t agree more with this review! This song is just terrible. I’m not much of a Carrie Underwood fan, but I do like some of her earlier songs (you, know, the ones that actually sounded country). “Undo It” is not country at all, and the lyrics are just stupid. I laughed at the LOLCats comparison; that’s exactly what I thought about when I first heard the song, haha!

  393. norman
    December 29, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    I LOVE this song. haha, well too bad your review was WRONG. “Undo It’ was just named #1 video of the YEAR on CMT.

  394. stormy
    December 29, 2010 at 1:19 pm

    And that’s why people hate CMT.

  395. Damien
    January 5, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    I personally like this song too. I think the younger generation probably likes the “lol lyrics”. But I can do without it myself.

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