Brad Paisley Wins Big; Hank Cochran Honored; Sugarland Plans Live CD/DVD

Brody Vercher | June 17th, 2009

  1. Rick
    June 17, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Were the CMT Awards on last night? Gosh, somehow I missed that one. Darn…(lol)

    That BMI party for Hank Cochran would have been amazing to attend in person. Too bad they didn’t record it to offer online. Shame on them.

    That Entertainment Weekly list of albums is interesting. I like most of his older selections but derail on most of the more recent material. Chris Willman sure likes Gram Parsons…

  2. Kelly
    June 17, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Man – I’m not so sure that the Chambers/Nicholson album wont be my top album for 2009…screw the calendar.

  3. Brady Vercher
    June 17, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Fanboy!

  4. Stormy
    June 17, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    I have ticket to the 9:30 show at the Cactus on Monday. I will be the one with the Janis Joplin hair and the cutest, vintage-y dress (at least I had the cutest vintage-y dress of all the many vintage-y dresses at the Neko Case concert.)

  5. Kelly
    June 17, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    @ Brady – Yessir, that would be me.

    @ Stormy – Holla at yo boy if you end up needing a balding married man as your concert date.

  6. Stormy
    June 17, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    I don’t have anyone going to the concert with me, but it normally doesn’t take me long to make friends. I went to Neko’s alone and had a posse by the time Shearwater went on. But say “hey” to me at the concert and I’ll buy you a beer.

  7. Kelly
    June 17, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I would if I could, but I wont be making the trip down from Dallas unless I just get totally crazy for a Monday night :-)

  8. Leeann Ward
    June 17, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    Ah, I’m a fangirl and there’s absolutely no poinnt in me trying to deny it.

  9. J.R. Journey
    June 17, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Chris Willman’s list contains some great albums as well as some head scratchers.

  10. prior
    June 17, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    the head scratchers are?

  11. Nicolas
    June 17, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    That’s a mighty-fine magazine cover “Shape” has there =) (Work it Julianne!)

  12. prior
    June 17, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    god almighty , rascal flatts won again, could somebody just cut a tiny
    bit in their arms and throw them in a pool of piranha’s.
    they are singlehandedly destroying country music.
    will the circle be unbroken? seems more like they throw it in an ocean of vanilla.

  13. Razor X
    June 17, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    the head scratchers are?

    The Dierks Bentley, Big & Rich, Gretchen Wilson, Robert Plant & Alison Krauss and Shania Twain albums. I wouldn’t have included Brad Paisley’s Time Well Wasted , either. It’s a good album, but I think there are better candidates for an essential listening list.

  14. Kelly
    June 17, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    I’ve said this before regarding other similar lists. My issue with the thought of a list for people who hate country music is that most of the albums, while great for the most part, are VERY country and arent going to offer a “country-hater” anything that will bridge the gap, so to speak. We can say that the Earle or Parsons offerings cross-over a bit or that the Jack White element of the Lynn album might flip the switch, but not enough to bring someone in today’s climate of segmented markets and specialized sub-genre’s over from one side to the other. I would imagine some older Neko Case and/or Whiskeytown would be the right type of album for this list. Maybe some Drive by Truckers, Iron & Wine also would fit nicely, due to the heavy rock and indie-folk vibes repsectively. Heck even some of the current day “Red Dirt” where rock lovers find themselves rocking to Aaron Watson or Jason Boland without even realizing that its “country” and not simply “texas” music.

  15. prior
    June 17, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    what about the dixie chicks album razor?

  16. Razor X
    June 17, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Home was actually the Chicks’ best album. I probably wouldn’t have included it if I were compiling the list, but a case can be made for it — more so than the others I mentioned, anyway.

  17. prior
    June 17, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    no offense,but you have little bit of a grudge against the dixie chicks, dont you?

  18. idlewildsouth
    June 17, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    I thought that was a fairly decent list. Some of the choices seemed questionable, especially the Dierks selection. If I had to go with one of his, it would have probably been “Long Trip Alone”. Maybe Ill be run out of town, but I’m just not that into Gram Parsons. I like alot of his music, but at the end of the day, I feel like he was a spoiled rich kid that took out his need for attention, due to the lack of a loving childhood, on each and every person that ever tried to make music with him. Wow. Sorry, Im reading “Twenty Thousand Roads” right now.

  19. Paul W Dennis
    June 17, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    Okay list,stacked toward modern artists, but that’s what you’d expect since Willman’s audience wouldn’t know about Johnny Darrell or Ernest Tubb. Gram Parsons is a highly questionable choice

  20. Vicki
    June 17, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Ok I’ve read many comments on the CMT video awards and by far…people like a little but more blame it on the MTV influence. Like the whole Taylor/T-pain video opening. Someone wrote that she was being cute and took that off of something that happened at the MTV awards. I guess her pop fans got it for we were all scratching our heads.

    As for the show, what was with the sound people? Many artists who normally sound good sounded flat or sharp. But the worse..was the last performance of the night. That was the worse ever.

    If this show doesn’t drive people in the direction of real country music…nothing will.

  21. Marc
    June 17, 2009 at 6:17 pm
  22. Drew
    June 17, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Thank God I didn’t even waste my time watching that garbage. And wow, look at Martina… still got the goods, and we already knew Julianne Hough was smoking.

  23. Mike Wimmer
    June 17, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    I saw a couple minutes of the CMT Awards. They included Dierks Bentley singing with a bunch of grinding girls around him.

    The only thing I could think of was how sad it was that it’s the same guy who put out one of the best debut albums in modern times.

  24. Rick
    June 17, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Mike, I’d agree about Dierks but the album I’m thinking of is his indie debut “Don’t Leave Me In Love” and not his self titled big label release…

    I’m interested to hear reports about Kasey Chambers’ shows in Austin. Last Friday, when Kasey’s and Shane’s appearance on “A Prairie Home Companion” was recorded in Cincinnati, Kasey’s voice sounded a bit rough and she’s been barnstorming since. Hmmm….

    As for “Shape” magazine, LeAnn Rimes should have struck a “Betty Grable” type pose as her best assets are behind her. (lol)

  25. Razor X
    June 17, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    no offense,but you have little bit of a grudge against the dixie chicks, dont you?

    My personal feelings about them don’t enter into it. The album has enough musical merit that I’m not going to argue with its inclusion. If I were compiling the list, it would be very different, and I’m not just referring to the Dixie Chicks.

  26. Jay
    June 17, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    I watched the CMT music awards and man…there were a lot of disapointing moments.

    I’m not going to feed into the whole “Screw Rascal Flatts” or “This is country?” debate. Guess what people…yeah it is, get over it. Don’t like it, don’t listen…thats it.

    However I agree the award show was a disapointment in the end. This show seems to be going even farther down and what with Sugarland and the Faltts boys having double the chance to win with two videos….they’re just asking people to make them win now.

  27. Brady Vercher
    June 17, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    I’m not going to feed into the whole “Screw Rascal Flatts” or “This is country?” debate. Guess what people…yeah it is, get over it. Don’t like it, don’t listen…thats it.

    Uhh, you just commented on whether or not it was country by saying it was. Doesn’t that kind of negate the rest of your opinion?

  28. Stormy
    June 17, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    I’m not going to feed into the whole “Screw Rascal Flatts” or “This is country?” debate. Guess what people…yeah it is, get over it. Don’t like it, don’t listen…thats it.

    And there we get to the crux of why music sales are so low. We don’t like it and we aren’t listening to it.

  29. Razor X
    June 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    I watched the CMT music awards and man…there were a lot of disapointing moments.

    Why? What were expecting — a decent show with some actual country music??

  30. Nicolas
    June 17, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    With the exception of maybe Swift dabbling in rap mvs and rock bands, last night was country (some of it more pop country than others, but thats beside the point) – I agree w/ you Jay… all this complaining about how it sucked is on the overkill side

  31. Brady Vercher
    June 17, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Less than 10 comments is overkill? And leaning more pop is beside the point when discussing whether or not something is country? You apologists amaze me.

  32. Stormy
    June 17, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    When you are talking about the CMT Awards there is no such thing as overkill. You cannot kill that show too much.

  33. Razor X
    June 17, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Less than 10 comments is overkill? And leaning more pop is beside the point when discussing whether or not something is country? You apologists amaze me.

    This is what happens when an entire generation no longer recognizes what is and is not country.

  34. Nicolas
    June 18, 2009 at 12:52 am

    “Less than 10 comments is overkill? And leaning more pop is beside the point when discussing whether or not something is country? You apologists amaze me.”

    Its less than 10 comments here maybe, but there’s plenty of the same in the forums, and also on other websites too.

    And no country songs leaning toward pop shouldn’t matter that much… just like songs leaning towards rock or bluegrass or adult contemporary or whatever… that’s why there’s like 12 dif sub-genres of country music. It wasn’t all pop either: Toby Keith and Trace Adkins the other night weren’t performing pop country… and neither was Joey + Rory on the Insurance stage

  35. Lilly
    June 18, 2009 at 2:09 am

    Nicolas, it matters to me because there is hardly any true country on Radio/CMT. Some of the songs played I might not mind on pop radio. But fact is if I listen/watch a country channel I want to hear the instruments, the style, the feeling, the life of country. If you’re selling country, there has to be country in it! I also do not want to hear Alan Jackson mixed in with classical music.

    Let me put it this way: if I want to buy meat, I’m going to butcher, not J.C.Penny.

  36. Nicolas
    June 18, 2009 at 2:17 am

    There’s still somes songs out there with true country qualities to them – like “Dead Flowers”, “Boy Like Me”, “Sissy’s Song” to name a few charting at the moment

    Although CMT plays a much wider variety — Dolly Parton’s “Backwoods Barbie” didn’t chart on radio, but I saw the music video getting spins all the time on CMT for the first month or so of its release

  37. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 5:23 am

    You think “Boys Like Me” is traditional country??

  38. Lily
    June 18, 2009 at 6:01 am

    You’re right, there is some. But when you call it “Country” station shouldn’t it be the other way round? A LOT of country and some pop. Pop has a lot of pop songs and SOME country (lilly allen currently comes to mind).

  39. Leeann Ward
    June 18, 2009 at 6:15 am

    I think “Boys Like Me” might have even more country qualities than the rock arena sounding “Dead Flowers” though.

  40. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 8:25 am

    I think “Boys Like Me” might have even more country qualities than the rock arena sounding “Dead Flowers” though.

    You have a point, but neither one of them is traditional country.

  41. Leeann Ward
    June 18, 2009 at 8:47 am

    Ditto to that, Razor.

  42. Jay
    June 18, 2009 at 10:04 am

    Why do you guys even try. Country music has changed, just like everything else in this world. I said I wasn’t gonna feed into to it, and apparently I already broke that right after I said it too.

    There is no real country music. When Johnny Cash and Haggard came out noone called them country. They told them they were destroying country music and even tried to change them. When garth came out people said exactly the same thing. When Keith Urban came out again those comments….

    Apparently the lines between country and not country can only be drawn by the people listening to them. The only reason sales are down is because things are becoming more computerized, like the shift to CD’s was a huge change from cassette and 8-track which were huge shifts from vinyl.

    Setiously guys, who cares. And yes I did expect a good show with good artists and great music..which i got. It was just the winners were to typical is all, everyone knew who would win which does spoil the show.

    So I say this again, where do the lines draw. The people all you traditionalists and contemporarys and apparently “apologists” priase so much are all in the same boat, ushering in new eras in a genre that has always been changing, always been a source of controversy, and remains the most popular and heavily followed genre is the world today. So quit your bitching and get over it. Country is country, nothing more nothing less, and while opinions and tasrtes may differ, unless you want country to disapear altogether I suggest you stop complaining and roll with it or find somewhere else to go, stay there and leave country alone.

  43. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 10:19 am

    The only reason sales are down is because things are becoming more computerized, like the shift to CD’s was a huge change from cassette and 8-track which were huge shifts from vinyl.

    So did the shift from cassettes, 8-tracks and vinyl to CDs cause an overall decline in music sales? If things becoming “computerized” is responsible for the decline in CD sales, why aren’t we seeing an commensurate increase in digital sales? Or could it really be that people don’t like what’s being offered and aren’t willing to bpay for it??

    When Johnny Cash and Haggard came out noone called them country.

    Nobody called Merle Haggard country?? Really?? What did they call him, then?

  44. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 10:26 am

    When Haggard came out no one called him country? What Kool-Aid have you been drinking? You might want to learn a little more about the history of the genre before claiming to know what it is.

  45. Josh
    June 18, 2009 at 11:22 am

    I applaud Liz for taking a stand in something she believes in. I’m sure she’ll do just fine and hopefully break even more grounds for country music. I can’t help but feel like Rosa Parks moment since even today I hear some people refer Country Music as “white bread”. I hope to hell this changes soon enough!! The point of country music is to have a diverse perspective from a eclectic range of diversity…we might as well get on that bandwagon if it isn’t too late.

  46. Dr. No
    June 18, 2009 at 11:27 am

    Brady and Razor,

    Jay is probably just another guy that rode into town circa 2001-2002.

  47. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 11:33 am

    Josh, I think it’s great that Liz would stand up for something she believes in as well, but a Rosa Parks moment? I think the magnitude of that event goes way beyond a black person trying to make it in country music, especially considering she isn’t the first. And I don’t think the point of country music has ever been “to have a diverse perspective from a eclectic range of diversity.” Would you care to expound on that statement?

  48. Troy
    June 18, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Razor x said If things becoming “computerized” is responsible for the decline in CD sales, why aren’t we seeing an commensurate increase in digital sales?

    Limewire! No matter how much someone likes an artist some people get all their music from there. Pay 10 dollars or get it for free. This would explain why pretty much all genres cds sales are falling down.

  49. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Jay is probably just another guy that rode into town circa 2001-2002

    That long, eh??

  50. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    How does the report from a couple days ago that said half of country music fans don’t have the internet at home fit into your conclusion, Troy?

    For the record, I wouldn’t install Limewire on my computer if someone paid me.

  51. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 12:16 pm

    Dr. No and Razor X: He actually wrote his own blog for awhile if he cares to share it with us.

  52. Jay
    June 18, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Since you called me on it Brady yes I did writye my own blog for a little over a year and I closed it down beacuase of people like this.

    Reviews and blogging for me was destroting my enjoyment of the music and I think its doing that for everyone including the people on here. The 9513 has some…I repeat, “some” good entries and reliable information, but a lot of it is just attempts to destroy country music because it’s different now.

    And for the record I did do research before my Merle comment and according to research he was criticized for his content and how far it was willing to go, basically taking away that “peaceful” image country used to have and guess what….it worked. “Mama Tried” was among one of the songs that changed what country music stood for.

    And for Dr. No, I’ve been following country since I was born, I am now 19 and have a collection of over 200 CD’s spanning from Hank, Cash Willie and Travis to Garth, Paisley, Urban and Chesney. Just because I’m young doesn’t make me stupid…as much as a lot of you would it to be that way. If thats the case then you have no more authority on the new stuff then I do on the older stuff and thus you sound as rediculous as I do.

    Responsing now to Troy, simply put, good point. Illigal downloading and burning has decreased the sales a lot too which fans fail to realize do their favorite artists no good.

  53. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    The 9513 has some…I repeat, “some” good entries and reliable information, but a lot of it is just attempts to destroy country music because it’s different now.

    Nobody here has an agenda to destroy country music. It’s doing a perfectly good job of destroying itself without any help from anyone.

    And for the record I did do research before my Merle comment and according to research he was criticized for his content and how far it was willing to go, basically taking away that “peaceful” image country used to have and guess what….it worked. “Mama Tried” was among one of the songs that changed what country music stood for.

    That’s not the same thing as saying he isn’t country.

    Illigal downloading and burning has decreased the sales a lot too which fans fail to realize do their favorite artists no good.

    Which brings us back to Brady’s question: how does this reconcile with the report from earlier this week that said that half of country music fans don’t have internet access at home?

  54. Jay
    June 18, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    Ok so I mis-spoke on the Haggard thing. Everyone hates someone who wants to change something was my point, everyone here included…thats the human nature, but love it or hate it its happening.

    In response to Brady’s question and a lot of others here….no internet, go and buy the CD’s then. Funny how the works of legends like WIllie and Merle, even their newer stuff, barely even taps the charts most of the time, other than Johnny he seems to still have his way with fans which is cool. Yet the people who buy all there music are sitting here complainging they don’t dominate enough. You don’t have a computer, you want to change the music, then go out there and buy what you want and show country wqhat you want. If they truely play what sells then go buy it and show them what you want.

    I don’t download in all honesty though, I enjoy going to buy the CD’s and stuff to support the artist to the full extent, and if you want to change what is changing then you should too, simple as that.

  55. Leeann Ward
    June 18, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    I wouldn’t illegally download either. I know people whose computers have been destroyed by it.

  56. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Reviews and blogging for me was destroting my enjoyment of the music and I think its doing that for everyone including the people on here. The 9513 has some…I repeat, “some” good entries and reliable information, but a lot of it is just attempts to destroy country music because it’s different now.

    I just don’t know what to say to that. You honestly think our goal is to destroy country music because we hold it to a higher standard than a typical fan? As far as change, most people aren’t complaining because of change, they’re complaining because of the inferior quality, the almost universal lack of effort by the majority of mainstream artists, and the abandonment of the genre’s roots. Personally, I love a ton of country music that would never be mistaken as traditional.

    And for the record I did do research before my Merle comment and according to research he was criticized for his content and how far it was willing to go, basically taking away that “peaceful” image country used to have and guess what….it worked. “Mama Tried” was among one of the songs that changed what country music stood for.

    So songs like “Folsom Prison Blues,” “Knoxville Girl,” “Back Street Affair,” “Green Green Grass of Home,” “The Cold Hard Facts of Life,” “T for Texas,” and Hank Williams singing about jumping in the river to die were considered peaceful before Merle Haggard came along and changed the perception of country music with the dark and twisted “Mama Tried?” That’s some good information to know.

    In response to Brady’s question and a lot of others here….no internet, go and buy the CD’s then. Funny how the works of legends like WIllie and Merle, even their newer stuff, barely even taps the charts most of the time, other than Johnny he seems to still have his way with fans which is cool.

    You can’t discount the influence of money and marketing. As for people without internet buying CDs, let us know how they’re going to do that when the shelf space retail outlets dedicate to CDs is dwindling and they mostly stock artists that are being promoted by the majors? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone complain that Willie and Merle aren’t dominating the charts. The complaints are about lack of diversity and abundance of mediocre crap.

    Anyways, that’s a lot of misrepresentin’.

  57. Jay
    June 18, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    “I just don’t know what to say to that. You honestly think our goal is to destroy country music because we hold it to a higher standard than a typical fan? As far as change, most people aren’t complaining because of change, they’re complaining because of the inferior quality, the almost universal lack of effort by the majority of mainstream artists, and the abandonment of the genre’s roots. Personally, I love a ton of country music that would never be mistaken as traditional.”

    See what I meant was that it was ruining it for me to do it. What I find as an issue with you guys is simply that quality doesn’t seem to have anything to do with it. There’s no humility about you guys, or at least it seems that way. A lot of what you guys say is nasty and said in absolution. To be critical and have high standards is one thing, to be insutling and degrading is another.

  58. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    In response to Brady’s question and a lot of others here….no internet, go and buy the CD’s then.

    That wasn’t the question. You made the claim that country music sales are down due to illegal downloading. That contradicts the story from the other day that said half of country’s fans don’t have internet accesss. None of us are complaining about not having internet access, because guess what — if we didn’t have internet access, we wouldn’t be having this discussion, now would we?

  59. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    See what I meant was that it was ruining it for me to do it.

    But you also said it was ruining it for everyone including people on here.

    A lot of what you guys say is nasty and said in absolution. To be critical and have high standards is one thing, to be insutling and degrading is another.

    You’ve exaggerated most of what you’ve said so far, so I’m not going to place a lot of stock in that opinion, but you are welcome to challenge anything we say.

  60. Kris
    June 18, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    I agree with Jay, screw you all!!!!!

    Country music is great and you guys are ruining everything for everyone so shut it!!!!!

  61. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 2:45 pm

    Country music is great and you guys are ruining everything for everyone so shut it!!!!!

    Or … we could not “shut it” and you can just stop visiting the site. Does that work for everybody??

  62. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Just for posterity, Kris has the same IP as Jay.

  63. Stormy
    June 18, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Must not make screw joke…..Must not make screw joke……must…..not…………

  64. Brody Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    A little Ray Wylie Hubbard seems relevant right about now: “Screw you, we’re from Texas.”

  65. Rick
    June 18, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Jay, no one is being forced to come to The 9513 and read the reviews and comments here. If what is written here is “destroying” country music and “ruining it for you” then just stop doing it! Crikey mate! You are like a local gadfly at a city council meeting…

  66. Troy
    June 18, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    sorry i didn’t see the report i was just talking about sales declining. Could someone send me link the page because id be interested in reading but don’t see it on this page.The survey could easily have been made to get that % like if was done in done in west Virginia it is easier to get that 50% but i’m sure if i polled country fans in orange county cali i could get 100% that have internet

    Brady and Leann, i don’t use limewire either because when i like an artist i want them to succeed. I would think most people on this site wouldn’t either because of how much they care about music but for an everyday person limewire an easy solution to pay nothing for music. I think the trend going to continue because after itunes raised song price more people got limewire.

    Also if you look at the music from late 90 early 2000 once illegal downloading started their sales when down or they broke up due to low sales.

  67. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Troy, I’m usually pretty weary of the accuracy of surveys myself, but here it is.

  68. Troy
    June 18, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Brady said ” mostly stock artists that are being promoted by the majors?”

    Isn’t the current best selling artist promoted through an independent record label big machine records only distributed by major label.(Universal)

  69. Leeann Ward
    June 18, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    Troy,
    For the record, I’d have no right to get on a high horse about the ethics of limewire, since I used to buy used CDs from Amazon all the time. I know it’s a hot button issue, but I have to watch my account as much as the artists have to make money. With that said, however, since I’ve started digitally downloading about a year or so ago, I very rarely buy used CDs, since I’ve chosen the instant gratification of downloading over saving money. The only time I buy used now is if it’s not digitally available on Amazon.

  70. Vicki
    June 18, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    Trace Aitkins: Someone must have told him he looks like a Romance book hunk with his hair down. Ever since his “Marry for Money”, he’s mostly had his hair down. All through CMA fest and at the CMT awards. Honestly, I’d wish he’d put it back like it was or go ahead and get it cut. Or he is trying to do the Jamey Johnson look?

  71. Troy
    June 18, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Leann i sometimes have bought used cds from amazon too. Their usually like 5 or 6 years old so their only like a penny.

  72. Brady Vercher
    June 18, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    Troy, mostly ;) Taylor is an anomaly more than a mere exception, but she’s got major kind of money behind her.

    Vicki, I’ve seen him a few times before with his hair down. He mentioned in his book that it drives his PR people wild and if he were to cut it, the only style he’d consider is a military style haircut (buzz or crew cut or something, I can’t remember).

  73. Razor X
    June 18, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    if he were to cut it, the only style he’d consider is a military style haircut (buzz or crew cut or something, I can’t remember).

    Which wouldn’t be a bad thing. He’s getting a bit long in the tooth for his current style.

  74. Stormy
    June 18, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Guys just look better with long hair.

  75. Nicolas
    June 19, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Rhapsody has Miranda Lambert categorized as Traditional Country/New Traditional, and I agree

    Same for “Boy Like Me” – it has some pop flavor to it, but in my opinion its at least like 80% country… its bold that she launched her solo career with such a traditional-type song, but she threw in enough to trick people into believing its somewhat pop

  76. Razor X
    June 19, 2009 at 7:06 am

    Rhapsody has Miranda Lambert categorized as Traditional Country/New Traditional,

    Well, there you have it. Rhapsody is the final authority on matters such as these, after all.

  77. Vicki
    June 19, 2009 at 7:16 am

    OMG! Watch this youtube performance of Taylor Swift on the CMT awards and watch the same performance on CMT where they doctored it to make it sound better!

    http://stoneln.blogspot.com/

  78. Brady Vercher
    June 19, 2009 at 7:42 am

    Miranda fits pretty squarely within the country genre, so that’s not a problem, but trying to label her as traditional is puzzling when she’s clearly not. Just curious how much traditional/new traditional music you listen to, Nicolas.

    Vicki, I thought CMT was going to release the live performances as some sort of compilation, but I can’t find any info about it now. In any case, they did have some technical glitches on the show where some of the sound cut out (Taylor was singing by herself with a barely audible band on my TV), but it sounds like they just remixed the audio in that second video. I wouldn’t expect them to release something with bad sound. Given how scripted and produced the show was, though, I wouldn’t be surprised if they worked with Taylor beforehand to do pitch correction on the fly.

  79. Leeann Ward
    June 19, 2009 at 8:32 am

    I agree with Brady on both the Miranda and Taylor points. Also, when I listened to those clips, it didn’t seem as much that the doctored as much as the sound quality was just really bad. It was hard to tell though, because the quality of sound for CMT is actually always bad through my cable provider.

  80. Vicki
    June 19, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Well, I could tell a huge difference. What the youtube one showed was what I heard when I was unfortunately watching the program and went to make popcorn. Then when I heard the CMT version now on their site,I thought it almost sounded like the radio version or CD version.

  81. Troy
    June 19, 2009 at 11:58 am

    On the CMT awards didn’t it sound like the mics for the singers were too low.

  82. Nicolas
    June 19, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    “Just curious how much traditional/new traditional music you listen to, Nicolas.”

    Miranda Lambert, Sara Evans, Lee Ann Womack, Trisha Yearwood, and Dolly Parton

  83. Nicolas
    June 19, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    @Troy: Yes! My mom thought the same thing on the first performance and I noticed it later too

  84. Steve Harvey
    June 21, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Nicolas,

    I don’t think Sara Evans could be classed as New Traditional. She’s pretty squarely pop-country. I’d say Lambert is contemporary country, with occasional veers into country-rock, Lee Ann Womack is definitely neotraditional (more often than not), Trisha is pop-country and Dolly depends on the record (she’s been full on pop-country and full on neotrad at various points throughout her career).

  85. Nicolas
    June 21, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    I disagree that Trisha and Sara are pop country, I think they’re at the very least contemporary

  86. Razor X
    June 21, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    OK, guys — at the risk of opening a real Pandora’s box — we need to come up with some working definitions of these terms that are being bandied about. How does one distinguish between “pop country” and “contemporary country”? Personally, I don’t make any distinction between the two since most contemporary country music is heavily pop-infused. But if we’re going to nitpick about which category Sara Evans and Trisha Yearwood fall under, then we need to know how to tell the difference.

  87. Stormy
    June 21, 2009 at 11:47 pm

    Not all contemporary country is played on mainstream radio, though. Elizabeth Cook would be another example of a singer who is not so much neo-traditional as simply country.

  88. Nicolas
    June 22, 2009 at 1:00 am

    @Razor X: Sometimes, but I don’t find enough pop influences in Sara Evans or Trisha Yearwood’s music – the majority of their music is very straight up country

  89. Jon
    June 22, 2009 at 10:46 am

    “Jay is probably just another guy that rode into town circa 2001-2002
    That long, eh??”

    As opposed to folks who rode into town c. 1991-1992 or 1981 – 1982? Sheesh. Country music has been around a long time, chillun.

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