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October 12, 2012 at 11:50 am
I have mixed feelings about this Billboard change. On one hand, it could possibly open things up for country or alt-country artists like Jamey Johnson or The Civil Wars who sell lots of digital singles/music, but had very little airplay to actually dent the Billboard charts. On the other hand, because the new chart counts all country artist airplay on non-country radio stations, it inherently gives a benefit to pop-country crossover artists since they have an opportunity to “double dip.” My gut tells me the radio stations will hate it, since they’re not the ones driving the chart any longer. It’ll be fascinating to see if it has any impact the industry over the next few months and years.
October 12, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Thanks for the shout out!
October 12, 2012 at 1:16 pm
This chart needs to be renamed the Taylor Swift Sandbox because she’ll be the only one who will be allowed to play in it:
http://www.billboard.com/charts/country-songs#
She has three songs in the top ten and one of them, “Red” hasn’t had any country radio play.
George Strait will never see another Billboard #1.
October 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm
Will the billboard changes effect the ALT country roots music arena’s ? We will see. However,i’d doubt it. The charts in a lot of ways are meaningless. Including the worthless Texas music chart. As social media and streaming and downloads drive music sales and ticket/merch sales, charts and tradtional radio will mean less and less as time goes by. It will make it harder for the older tradtional country fan who still listen to radio and buy Cd’s. Maybe this will push them towards the new media too we will see.
October 12, 2012 at 6:49 pm
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I wonder if the Billboard changes will make radio stations pay even more attention to the Mediabase charts? I would assume radio station programmers are primarily interested in what other radio stations are spinning as opposed to what is selling (or streaming). Hmm…
CMT Edge is covering a lot of worthy and talented Americana/Country artists as it gains steam. Something useful and legitimate from CMT land? Have I entered The Twilight Zone or something? Sheesh!
October 13, 2012 at 10:10 am
I dont understand why so many fans are outraged at the Billboard change. Does it suck if you are a Country artist? Sure and trust me, I cant stand Taylor Swift or her generic pop-Country music, but if you enjoy an artist how does this change things for you? Does this make songs like “The House That Built Me” any less great?
Support the artists and the songs you love and leave the rest to the stupid record executives. The industry has been a joke for a long time and the rewards shows are just more industry ass kissing among all the stars and their management teams.
October 13, 2012 at 1:37 pm
The outrage is because as bad as country radio was before, now non-country stations are going to have a strong influence on the country chart and give labels even more incentive to go toward rock and pop.
October 13, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Mike Wimmer asks a good question; I’ll bet he doesn’t get doodley squat in the way of an actual, responsive answer.
Question: will the inclusion of sales data have a greater or smaller impact on the new country chart than the broader airplay reporting? Answer: you don’t know, because the piece doesn’t give enough specifics to be able to tell. Which means, among other things, that all of the hand-wringing is wasted energy.
October 14, 2012 at 1:36 am
I can see that Andrew, but the industry was already going that way. Let’s be blunt, Country radio programmers dont care about quality and they dont care about how Country it sounds. They dont. The proof in that is the fact that Brantley Gilbert and Luke Bryan have consistent Top 5, Top 10 hits.
Country programmers have been pushing for a more rock/pop sound because that way they can pull in more people to their stations and not alienate folks who “hate” Country music.
Mainstream Country is pretty much a joke, if you look at the charts it’s filled with songs ranging from offensively bad, totally forgettable, or incredibly generic songs. Sure, there are still a song or two that comes along that grabs you, but if you listen to an hour of Country radio the chances of you hearing that is MAYBE a song an hour.
I just fail to see what has people so worked about this issue, people should be worked about how insulting to a human’s intelligence songs like “Cruise” and the songs that pre-dated it are. Be offended that Country programmers think so little of their audience that they honestly think all people want or can handle is songs about hot chicks, beer and trucks. Be worked up that guys like Jamey Johnson, Chris Knight and Hellbound Glory dont get a sniff of Country airplay, but “Truck Yeah” is played every hour.
I honestly dont see Music Row and Country Radio turning back at this point, people keep waiting for it, but the only traditional sounding songs that can get on the radio these days are basically George Strait copy cat songs.
My advice to people upset by this is be thankful. Be thankful that you have access to the internet and can listen to good music with heart and substance behind it whenever you want. Take the energy you are focusing on Billboard and instead put that energy towards supporting and spreading the word about artists you love. Trying to save Country radio at this point is a lost cause, a cause that was lost a long, long, long time ago….way before Billboard decided to crown Lady A and Taylor Swift the heads of Pop Country radio.
October 14, 2012 at 11:25 am
The Day the Music (Chart) Died:
http://www.countryuniverse.net/2012/10/11/the-day-the-music-chart-died/
Here’s a snippet from one of the comments:
On 10-23, when her album drops, all 16 tracks on the cd will chart on the Hot Country songs chart due to massive digital sales that she gets every time she releases her new album. So she will occupy the number 1-16 slots most likely on the new, Wonderful, “Hot Country songs” charts.
I hope that does happen because nothing will illustrate the absurdity of the current state of country music like this will.
October 14, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Mike, I agree with you about Top 40 AirHead Country Radio never turning back to a music focused format in big markets with Mediabase reporting stations. I know I’m beating a dead horse but when the Clinton administration allowed the FCC to drastically change radio station ownership restrictions, they opened Pandora’s Box and the “evil” unleashed will never be put back.
When radio station switched from primarily small, local ownership to large corporations the “business model” changed drastically and there is no going back. I remember back in the 1980′s LA’s KZLA had DJs who loved country music and picked the songs they spun with requests having a big influence on their selections. It may still be that way in small, independently owned stations (and WSM AM thank goodness), but those stations are like a proverbial drop in the bucket as to their market influence.
Yes, the Billboard chart changes may hasten mainstream country radio’s transition into a total craptastic pop-rock genre, but the end result is inevitable either way.
October 14, 2012 at 4:53 pm
And one of the ironies is that, when those who profess concern spend their time nattering about Billboard charts and mainstream country radio playlists, they end up on common ground with mainstream country radio programmers, agreeing with them that mainstream country radio – as in, terrestrial radio – has the key, if not the exclusive capacity to define country music.
October 14, 2012 at 10:50 pm
Billboard presumably has decided that this change will be good for Billboard. Why will it? Can’t say I know. But Billboard’s a private company and can do whatever they want with their charts.
Too bad R&R’s not still around–This might have been a boon to them. Maybe it will open the door for someone else to step in with a better country chart and gain recognition for it.
October 14, 2012 at 11:50 pm
I think for a “new” chart company to come in at this stage, it would take a company with massive financial backing and strong ties to Clear Channel, Viacom and the like to pull that off. I just dont see that happening, for one Billboard seems to have a good to great working relationship with those companies and considering Radio of any musical genre is considered a dying beast, where is the financial incentive for someone to do that?
Chances are if a company is interested in getting involved with the Music industry right now, it’s going to be involved with a streaming, cloud storage or touring endeavor.
I think the fact Billboard continues to try and “re-invent” the charts, is proof that even they know their relevance and importance within the industry and to the consumer is dying off.
October 15, 2012 at 10:46 am
BIllboard has been periodically changing the way that its country charts are constructed for as long as it’s had country charts. Phrases like “better country chart” seem like they ought to mean something, but until the question, “better for whom?” at least gets put on the table, it’s just more blather from someone obsessed with trying to sound like she knows something about the industry. “Can’t say I know,” indeed.
October 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Interesting take on the new Billboard Chart:
http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/how-billboards-new-chart-rules-effect-you
October 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm
Sorry, should have read the front page article before posting.
October 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm
One thing that seems to be getting lost in the discussion is that while Billboard is the most well-known chart, Mediabase is more widely used within the radio business. Countdown shows like Bob Kingsley, Kix Brooks, Lon Helton, Crook & Chase, et al use Mediabase, not Billboard. And the station I work for – along with many others – rely on Mediabase to determine how often to play currents.
October 15, 2012 at 8:27 pm
All of the sh
October 15, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Ack! All of the shows mentioned air primarily on country radio, right? Which is part of, but not all if the radio industry. Plus which, I’ll bet that if you asked the Billboard folks who they’re serving, it’s retail more than broadcasting.
October 16, 2012 at 1:25 am
Country radio was what I meant, genius. I don’t care what other formats are doing.
October 16, 2012 at 2:44 am
Uh, Jonno–
Ask someone–anyone–to take a look at this whole board and tell you who it is that seems obsessed.
October 16, 2012 at 10:33 am
Why would you say “radio business” if you meant “country radio business?” You’re not getting charged by the word for your posts, are you?
October 16, 2012 at 1:46 pm
By the word for posts..
Hmm. Don’t give us any ideas..
October 18, 2012 at 5:00 pm
Another interesting read on the Billboard switch and what it means for country:
http://nesteeventmarketing.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/the-billboard-100-ranking-system-spreads-to-country-songs/
http://tasteofcountry.com/billboard-chart-changes/
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